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I want to tap my sat radios power into the stock radio..so when i turn on teh radio..or the radio gets power it turns on my sat radio, but...how do i tell which wire is the ground and which is the power for the sat radio's power cord that goes into the cig lighter?
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Here is a wiring diagram for the Monsoon:
http://www.houston-f-body.org/tech/monsoon/

Here is how I added XM to my car:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showpost....15&postcount=3
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If you have a plug-and-play XM radio like the Delphi or the Roady then don't cut off the cigarette lighter plug and hardwire it into your car. Those models take 6V input and have a converter built in to the cigarette adapter. Sirius radios are all 12V so you won't have that problem.

Also, merely wiring into the same source as the head unit won't make it go on and off with the radio. The head unit has a 12V battery (constant) feed and a 12V accessory (RAP) feed. The power is there even if the radio is off. It will go on and off with the ignition switch as long as you don't use the battery feed.

If you want the satellite radio to go on and off with the radio then you can use the power antenna lead (pink wire at pin 8 of the 10-pin black connector on back of the radio).
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Originally Posted by WhiteBird00
If you have a plug-and-play XM radio like the Delphi or the Roady then don't cut off the cigarette lighter plug and hardwire it into your car. Those models take 6V input and have a converter built in to the cigarette adapter. Sirius radios are all 12V so you won't have that problem.

Also, merely wiring into the same source as the head unit won't make it go on and off with the radio. The head unit has a 12V battery (constant) feed and a 12V accessory (RAP) feed. The power is there even if the radio is off. It will go on and off with the ignition switch as long as you don't use the battery feed.

If you want the satellite radio to go on and off with the radio then you can use the power antenna lead (pink wire at pin 8 of the 10-pin black connector on back of the radio).

thank you..and I have a sirus sat radio...so i should be good then...also, my original question...which wire is which? there seems to be two when i cut off the end of the cig part....thank you.

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Originally Posted by BrandonDrecksage
thank you..and I have a sirus sat radio...so i should be good then...also, my original question...which wire is which? there seems to be two when i cut off the end of the cig part....thank you.
If you've already cut off the cigarette lighter adapter you may need a multimeter to determine which wire is which. You may find that one of the two wires has a white stripe on it. If so, that is the positive wire. If the wires aren't marked but you can determine which went where on the adapter then you can open up the adapter and find the wire that is connected to the center pin on the end of the adapter - that's the positive (the wire going to the two spring contacts along the side of the adapter are ground).

If you can't determine which wire originally went to the center pin then you'll need to use a multimeter to determine which wire has continuity to the inside of the satellite radio connector. The outside of the connector is ground and the inside is power.
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Originally Posted by WhiteBird00
If you've already cut off the cigarette lighter adapter you may need a multimeter to determine which wire is which. You may find that one of the two wires has a white stripe on it. If so, that is the positive wire. If the wires aren't marked but you can determine which went where on the adapter then you can open up the adapter and find the wire that is connected to the center pin on the end of the adapter - that's the positive (the wire going to the two spring contacts along the side of the adapter are ground).

If you can't determine which wire originally went to the center pin then you'll need to use a multimeter to determine which wire has continuity to the inside of the satellite radio connector. The outside of the connector is ground and the inside is power.

thank you..I haven't cut it off yet, but on the outside...the one wire has a broken wire line down the entire length of it. how much is a multi meter?
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The wire with the line on it is usually the positive (actually, I've never seen one where it was anything else). I've seen multimeters at Radio Shack for as little as $10.
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I thought that the stripe meant negative......
I could be wrong...WhiteBird00 knows his stuff.

I prefer color schemes (red for +, brown/black for -)

I guess its a good thing I graduated as a software guy and not a hardware guy.
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not all sirius plug and play units are 12v!!!!!!!!!
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oh, and btw, most sirius P and P units, the side with the strip is 12v+........and don't forget to fuse it
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Originally Posted by jimmy 2 Times
not all sirius plug and play units are 12v!!!!!!!!!

how do I know if it is 12v then?
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what unit do you have? or do you have a DMM?
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Originally Posted by jimmy 2 Times
not all sirius plug and play units are 12v!!!!!!!!!
Which ones aren't? All of the plug and play (non-cradle mount) Sirius radios I've seen are 12V. The cradle mount models don't count because the transformer is in the cradle so hard-wiring still isn't an issue - just connect to a 12V source and let the cradle take care of it.
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uh, lets the the S50, (12v in, 5v out)
all the EXact units are 12v in, 6 out


i install about 50 sirius units a week
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actually, the Exact units may be 12v in, and 5v out also, i will double check for you
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Originally Posted by jimmy 2 Times
uh, lets the the S50, (12v in, 5v out)
all the EXact units are 12v in, 6 out


i install about 50 sirius units a week
Oh, I wasn't doubting you - I just hadn't seen any. The S50 is kind of unique but the XACT units are more common (i.e. less expensive). I wasn't aware that they were 6V. I was thinking more of the StarMate and the various Replay models.
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whitebird, sorry, i didn't mean to come off as a "know-it-all"

i just didn't want this guy to fry his brand new sat.
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btw, normally, if i hardwire a Sat radio, i wire it up to an ACC, not 12v. On the S50 (the expensive portable one) DO NOT HOOK IT UP TO ACC, it must be 12v, and the person will have to manually shut it ON/OFF. There is something wrong with the internal design of the S50 that it will fry the internals if connected to ACC. I believe DEI is trying to fix it (at least i was told by the rep) but for now, USE 12v for that one
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I have this : http://www.jvc.com/product.jsp?model...thId=86&page=1

its a jvc model #KT-SR2000
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I don't know if that model is 12V or not but it doesn't matter - any transformer is built in to the cradle. You can just hardwire a 12V feed to the cradle and it will convert it as necessary.

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