parish8

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how does everyone think a seriously fast cars street times will compare to track times?

around here we have a couple of 8 sec cars that are driven on the street a little and a few 9 sec cars too. if a car can run high 8's at the track what is the absolute best he could run on the street? assume slicks and a big smokey burn out on a clean street.

i am wondering exactly how fast i need to be to beat these guys(on the street), i should run the same times at the track as on the street, probably change over to a little wider tire at some point.

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onebadz

Not sure, I think if it was a good clean street probally about .5 more than the track time. Just my thought

Wes

Assassin

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it really does depend on there set up also, some people make good use of the vht and some dont, I wouldnt think they would be more than 1 sec. off if they can get good traction, but maybe better if its at night and the air is cooler and the road is slightley down hill ect.. might run quicker, are you trying to beat an 8 sec. car w/ your 4x4?

parish8

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yes

titanium barchetta

I have used a g-tech pro on the street and my times were almost a full second off of the track!

Kinda scary, but everyone is on a level playing field just like the track so it doesn't really matter unless the other guy is on slicks and your on DR's.

john_matrix

Jesus Christ! You're trying to beat an 8 sec. car on the street! Better have some damn good life insurance. Correct me if I am wrong please.

99-LS1-SS

I have a kind of related question. I see all of these times in magazines and I see my track time are better than almost all of their times. Do they test at a track or do they have a 1/4 marked off with spray paint and a guy with a stop watch? I realize that the track will get better tracking but there are some big differences. Maybe the magazine guys can't drive worth a damn.

titanium barchetta

They usually mark off a 1/4 mile somewhere, but they use a radar gun and some good timing devices, not a stop-watch. Either way that explains the differences between what we can get out of the cars.

FLYNLO

8sec 1/4 mile or 8 sec 1/8 mile?????

02PHOENIX

GD, parish! I would really like to see that! Good luck!

I'd say find a nice road where there would be some concrete to launch. But still you'd need to run at least an 8 at the track from what titbar saw on his g-tech pro.

BigBronco

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man that seems quite impossible to do, but i would say they lose a good .5 to a whole second on the street!

Aries

an 8 second car will usually make a mid 9 second pass on the street. It's not that they aren't as fast, it's simply that there is a possibility for more problems.
Rocks, bumps and unseen grooves in the road can all cause a driver to lift and thus run slower.

Here in Houston, there are a few consecutive 8.90 cars that run on the streets... But the streets they choose are far from anything else and smoothe and straight.

parish8

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i am not saying i can do it, it is just a goal. i am hoping for a 9.99 at the track some day and i think i can run the same time on the street(4wd). while the rwd guys will fall off some. 900rwhp out of an ls1 isn't all that crazy and i think all the 2500HD truck driveline parts i have can be built to take it. my last truck was an ext cab and ran high 11's(or faster) on mostly 1500truck parts and a completly internaly stock 6.0.

that is what i am geting at, will a true 9.99 on the street win in a street race agains a car that can run a 8.9 at the track? i will probably only see a race like this maybe once or twice a year and it will be out in the middle of no where.

titanium barchetta

I want some of what you have been smokin!

Name one

john_matrix

I come across 900 rwhp every day. Damn, I wish. That would be ****

parish8

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so how much power do you think a forged everything iron block 409 with the new thick deck afr heads they have coming out at 12psi would make? QMP is pushing 600rwhp at 11psi on a stock high mile 5.7


then add a 200+DPshot with a seperate fuel source and 116octane gas?

isnt head lifting the current limiting factor? from what i am reading the afr heads will take care of that.

i think with all the bad *** parts that are being released will make 900+hp ls1's obtainable for anyone that wants to spend the money.

titanium barchetta

All I said was name one.

There is a BIG difference between 600 and 900 "rear"whp.

I didn't say it couldn't be done, just that there aren't very many if any out there. They just haven't been around long enough.

x phantom x

iTrader: (14)

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I'd say the only way it's happening is if the 8 second car goes BOOM!
Still though, it might coast down the road pretty fast so you better watch out ....


As it was said before, on the street you are on an even playing ground, just as you are on the track ... whatever will influence him, will influence you just as well.
Having 4 wheel drive isn't going to help you out anymore on the street then it would on the track, you will obviously have better traction then he will, but he will still have a full second or more on you to make up for that traction advantage you will have. (granted you get your 4x4 to hit that 9.99 you said you wanted)
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BigBronco

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well i know that a 1000 hp out of an ls1 is very tough being an aluminum block, it will get flimsy and just not hold together. while the 6.0 is iron, it will hold better. but i am still not sure, and we will have to wait for what the aftermarket will bring in the future. im sure in a few more year.

Good Luck!

EvilStang

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And how much money are you looking to spend for this 900 + hp