Originally Posted by MaroMan

Ive beat the viper from a roll. It needs a driver mod no doubt about it.

Viper ran 12.7s i believe with a 2.4 60 foot im running 13.0s with a 2.4. Take it to the street and its a little different.

The G8 is a pretty bad car, set the record for fastest bolt on and is looking to set the record for fastest cam only.

Anything we say should be taken as a joke because thats what we like to do.

And to Sticks and Stones, thanks for the kind words and trust me, If its not during the day and not a dig race, me and the g8 hardly run. So look forward to many videos this summer of all day races.

Originally Posted by Sticks n Stones

MaroMan and G8dave: You guys come across as some good guys my age group (39) that just got back into modding cars. Probably had some experience in the past with cars and are now back into it (like myself). Then you run into internet veterans and all around wise asses like StopSign32v and to a lesser extent Odarabla.

I see whats happening and know the frustration you are feeling, so here's the down low on this board: (and most other GOOD boards you will come across, like LS1GTO.com)

First thing first: StopSign and Odarabla are generally correct and some true street racing veterans who know quite a bit about all cars. StopSign in particular. However much I dislike him online, I gotta admit that his breadth of knowledge surpasses mine. If they are telling you something aint gonna happen; it most likely aint gonna happen.

Always check yourself and research before taking the carrot they innevitably dangle infront of you: because they normally have some data or real world experience to back it up- if not actual video evidence.

Second: They are as fallible as the next man, and as opinionated as any person you've probably ever known. Opinionated people get used to spouting off and it leads to arrogance and innaccurate advice sometimes. Sometimes. And for the record, pride aside, I have to admit I'm in that category, too.

Thirdly: You have the freedom to completely ignore them. Don't fall for there bait and they generally will keep from flaming a questionable thread. They've been around forums enough that they only take the "high hanging fruit" which in this case is guys like you and me who get into a indepth argument that they twist and lead to a different conclusion that you will not like when its upon you: exactly like where this thread is going.

Last: IT IS a LS tech board, but don't get turned off by all the pessimists who are allowed to thrash on guys who love LS powered cars and dislike other brands.

There is at least half a dozen guys on here who only own a competing brand -Mustang, SRT8, various imports- and post up on a regular basis whenever there brand is mentioned. It's a good thing. Seriously. Took me a few months of being pissed off about all the non-LSx guys on here before I accepted it. No regrets. However nice it is too have guys that pat you on your back over everything you say, it's not gonna help the hurt when you get stomped by a ... lets say, 98 Viper, after you assured everyone (including yourself) that you could take it. Which leads to the inevitable "It musta had nitrous!" or "there's something wrong with my tune" type self doubts or justifications. RICER justifications. Don't become one of them!

It's best to keep it realistic and have multiple platforms represented. After all, this isn't some nutswinger SVT board where they ban guys for arguing that Cobra's arent invincible is it? Or a import board where you call BS on a kill and they insta ban you because you don't own one of there sacred rice rockets?? Like alot of these guys, been there, argued that, and been banned.

Conclusion: Stick around. Lots of good guys that lurk around and come in with usefull info and out of the blue kill stories. You guys got some nice rides and WE ALL are looking forward to you future videos and races!

PS: Know how to tell StopSign believes he will lose an argument if he questions something? He wont post in the thread. Not even a "Good Kill" comment. --- yeah, I got your number StopSign. Of course, it's also advice everyone else could use. Including especially myself!

Welcome to the board, and looking forward to some more great daylight videos of your races! Too many nighttime vids that are impossible to make out what is really happening....

Originally Posted by Stopsign32v

I tried reading this but couldn't make sense of it. I just like to have a good time here. I'm not here to make trouble! Promise.

Originally Posted by JayplaySS2

Don't talk to anyone like this. This is your warning.

There is a joking "allowance" between friends here but you have none, yet.



For everyone else, lets keep it up a level.

Originally Posted by Stopsign32v

Well if you do decide the annual fee for my fan club is only $50. Act before Feb 28th and you get an extra $20 off. Something to think about...

Originally Posted by g8dave

sorry for coming off like that i feel i didnt start the name calling but oh well lol i never said i had the fastest car because there is always going to be that Joe Dirt with a fully gutted f-body or foxbody with a big motor and lots of nitrous to beat us all i should see 11.50's out of my car ill post the times and a video after the 28th of this month i would try him from a roll but i would most likely run from a dig,the guy sticks and stones talked about the may know a lot about fast cars and what not but they REALLY remind me of cobra owners,or z06 owners lol thanks for the feed back

Originally Posted by Stopsign32v

I do own a Cobra

Originally Posted by Stopsign32v

I do own a Cobra

Originally Posted by g8dave

lol i like cibras too i had a 01 lightning with a stegie stage 5 8lb lower and **** stall slicks skinnies flamed out it was the **** sold it to heavy = 2 slow so i got this now lol it still heavy tho 4100 lbs

Originally Posted by g8dave

all i should see 11.50's out of my car

Originally Posted by Stopsign32v

Damn oh damn did it ever look mean! Puts the GTO to shame IMO.

Originally Posted by TonyGXP

Here's a G8 with a baby cam mild stall and a TVS1900..

http://www.streetfire.net/video/Pont...MPH_209951.htm

this vehicle now has a built LS7 & the maggie, can't wait to see it run.. Once it stops snowing.

Tune Time builds the sickest G8's around.. Many look stock just watch for the little stickers in the 1/4 glass.. most have TVS1900's and are quite the fast 4dr lol

Originally Posted by Stopsign32v

Yea I like G8s too. I remember the first time I saw one. I was at the beach and my gf and I rode by a Pontiac dealership down there and there was a white one. Damn oh damn did it ever look mean! Puts the GTO to shame IMO.

Originally Posted by g8dave

lol i like cobras too i had a 01 lightning with a stegie stage 5 8lb lower and **** stall slicks skinnies flamed out it was the **** sold it to heavy = 2 slow so i got this now lol it still heavy tho 4100 lbs

Originally Posted by Stopsign32v

Yea I like G8s too. I remember the first time I saw one. I was at the beach and my gf and I rode by a Pontiac dealership down there and there was a white one. Damn oh damn did it ever look mean! Puts the GTO to shame IMO.

Originally Posted by odarabla

You mean you actually have a GF? Lucky you! I thought it could happen!!

Originally Posted by TonyGXP

Here's a G8 with a baby cam mild stall and a TVS1900..

http://www.streetfire.net/video/Pont...MPH_209951.htm

this vehicle now has a built LS7 & the maggie, can't wait to see it run.. Once it stops snowing.

Tune Time builds the sickest G8's around.. Many look stock just watch for the little stickers in the 1/4 glass.. most have TVS1900's and are quite the fast 4dr lol