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Old 01-20-2004, 06:30 PM
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I'm just wondering how I would stand against a bone stock LS1 C5 Corvette. Assuming both drivers are equal in skill, and both get a good launch, so it when is basically comes down to brute power and weight. Mods are in sig. Thanks.
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You will win.
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ya to be honest ...i ran a vert c5 auto from a 50 roll ...(i think thats the weak spot on ls1 cars , stock ones anyways ) and stayed dead even from 50 -100...thought i did well ...i posted it in here but SOMEONE deleted it
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oh and before you all flame me on that ....im sure my weight advantage and gearing advantage came into play when we ran em
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Last time I went to the track, there were 2 C5's. Both were autos. They ran 13.4-13.6 all night long. With mods in sig, I ran the time in my sig within .05 seconds all night.
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I'm really surprised to see you post that. It will be no contest. You will destroy, dominate, walk, stomp, own, **** on a stock C5 hands down.
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Originally Posted by 281cipwr
oh and before you all flame me on that ....im sure my weight advantage and gearing advantage came into play when we ran em
Umm... whats your weight?
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What did you dyno?

Im in the same boat. I street raced a C5 and he mentioned he had intake and exhaust mods and dynoed 328rwhp. I ran 360rwhp and raced him in 3rd gear at about 5200rpms until mid 4th gear. We raced from a roll and his back bumper was by my headlights. He beat me. Check out my thread called "Cammed WS6 vs. SS and C5".
C5s weigh much less they are dangerous in high speed races.
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C5's run high 12's low 13's bone stock. So do fbodies. A cammed LS1 should whoop a stock C5. If not, you're doing something wrong. A cammed LS1 should run with a stock Z06.
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true but that depends on the cam size and from what speeds the race starts at. I raced a 328rwhp C5 in high 3rd gear which I would guess around 90-98mph roll.

If the C5 owner truely made 328rwhp then I would say your wrong if you guys think a cammed ls1 like mine (cam specs: 225/224.5 113.8LSA) would beat a 328rwhp C5. I raced that C5 today morning at 6AM and I lost. Although we were still side by side and his back bumper was by my headlights he still won.

I guess aerodynamics and weight has a big impact on performance in high speeds.

But then again if your talking a completely stock C5 then yes a cammed fbody would win. One thing for sure is that a cammed fbody WONT walk away from a C5 in high speed runs. Just my experience.
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Originally Posted by 2002_TAWS6
true but that depends on the cam size and from what speeds the race starts at. I raced a 328rwhp C5 in high 3rd gear which I would guess around 90-98mph roll.

If the C5 owner truely made 328rwhp then I would say your wrong if you guys think a cammed ls1 like mine (cam specs: 225/224.5 113.8LSA) would beat a 328rwhp C5. I raced that C5 today morning at 6AM and I lost. Although we were still side by side and his back bumper was by my headlights he still won.

I guess aerodynamics and weight has a big impact on performance in high speeds.

But then again if your talking a completely stock C5 then yes a cammed fbody would win. One thing for sure is that a cammed fbody WONT walk away from a C5 in high speed runs. Just my experience.
Cam size definitely plays a roll. I'll give you that one. Most people go with a moderate to bigger cam though. Not many guys go with a mild cam. There are cam only cars running deep 11's. NO stock C5 (including a Z06) can hang there.

Vettes do have the aerodynamic advantage so they will do a little better at high speeds. A4 C5's aren't as advantaged on the highway as M6's are. IMO, a stock '02 M6 LS1 will hang neck and neck with a M6 C5. I've done it with my old A4 LS1 and it only ran a 13.doh N/A.
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hey Unit, J-rod made an 11.59 pass in his stock z06, with only TIREs. but there is not too many drivers on the road like J-rod!
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Originally Posted by unit213
A cammed LS1 should run with a stock Z06.
you would be surprised.

Dont forget Z06s have MUCH better trannies, MUCH better aerodynamics, AND weigh at least 300lbs less.

1/4 mile racing is one thing. Street racing is another.

You may have nittos on your mildly cammed car and run low 12s. Just dont forget BONE STOCK 02+ Z06s run 11s with JUST nittos. TRUST me it is within reach bone stock.

Dont forget the guy mentioned his cam was a 224/224 114 cam and I have the same exact cam from Thunder Racing. I would say theres no freakin way he could beat a Z06 in a street race EVEN if he had long tubes on his ride.

I have my kooks LTs coming in tomorrow. Ill install them with a spec 3 clutch, do 400 slow miles for it to break in right and race my best friend in his 02 Z06 and post the outcomes.

Ofcourse my post is based on the guys signature.
Again im not saying he couldnt beat a C5. Im just saying i lost to one today and mentioned the details.
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Originally Posted by BigBronco
hey Unit, J-rod made an 11.59 pass in his stock z06, with only TIREs. but there is not too many drivers on the road like J-rod!
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told you its within reach. Dont underestimate those cars. My goal was to beat them naturally aspirated with my cam and no heads but unfortunately i was wrong.

Again, maybe I could beat one in a 1/4 mile run.. but when it comes to street racing.. i dont think so... hope im wrong though.. will have to wait till the headers and clutch gets installed and ill let you know if you are interested.
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I never said a cammed LS1 could beat a stock Z06 (even though there are plenty out there that can). I said it can run with one...meaning stay close to it.

JROD dumps the clutch at 6600rpm on ET Streets. To my knowledge, he has the fastest/quickest stock Z06 in the business. He is not the average driver and shouldn't be used in comparison. The record for a stock '03 Cobra is a 12.43. That doesn't mean anything really...just a freak occurence.

I've never underestimated a Z06. They are world class cars. I'm just stating what I know from my own personal experience. I've driven countless modded LS1's and several '03 Z06's...not to mention the LS1 that I owned.
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yeah, definately that is why i didnt really say to compare him, because he is the above average driver. i have driven one 02 z06 and two 03 zo6's and quite a few ls1's you can feel the difference.
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I know for a fact I could drive a bone stock '03 Z06 to a very low 12 second 1/4mile. They are badass. I also know I could put a cammed LS1 into the 11's...depending on the cam of course.

...and I understand track & street racing are different. Track times indicate power & traction which is the determining factor of a race given equal drivers.
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well your right to some extent. A cammed LS1 could stay close to a Z06 but surely a 224/224 cam only car will be out of reach with a Z06 especially from a roll in street racing.

I sure hope a 224/224 cam with headers could stay close to an 02+ Z06 (2001 Z06s are shitty imo).

Ill have to race one and get back to you on this as I still have not experienced it. Wish me luck in a few weeks time
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I agree about the '01 Z06's.
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Originally Posted by 2002_TAWS6
you would be surprised.

Dont forget Z06s have MUCH better trannies, MUCH better aerodynamics, AND weigh at least 300lbs less.
I have a correction. A Z06 has a .32-.33 coefficiant of drag....a regular hatch vette has about a .28-.29.

Z06's tend to have a slower or equal top speed to a standard vette due to the difference in drag.



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