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Old 08-20-2010, 03:29 PM
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Default 00 SS M6 vs 95 Cobra hci

I got called out by a buddy of mine. He has a 94 cobra with afr 165s a small cam maybe an e303 and a holley intake. The rest of the car is stock with the exception of the supporting mods like injectors and so forth. My car is an m6 200 ss with just a k&n fipk and a cutout with free mods. My car laid down 338rwhp with 355tq. Am I in for a long night or should it be close. We wil most likely do a second gear roll. Whataya think guys? I will try to post a vid as well!
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you'll win.. is the race tonight?
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Originally Posted by sujomatt
you'll win.. is the race tonight?
I should happen on wednsday night on the way home from the race track. By the way I just found out nhe kept the stock cam! thx!
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Damn those are some good number. My car is full bolt on and my hp/tq are lower lmao
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Originally Posted by mateols1ss
I should happen on wednsday night on the way home from the race track. By the way I just found out nhe kept the stock cam! thx!
So you're telling me he bought heads but didnt change the cam? Doubtful.

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Damn those are some good number. My car is full bolt on and my hp/tq are lower lmao
Its a happy dyno, dont buy the numbers. The track would sort out what is what.
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Originally Posted by Gohard
Damn those are some good number. My car is full bolt on and my hp/tq are lower lmao
Are you an m6 car?
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Originally Posted by WSsick
So you're telling me he bought heads but didnt change the cam? Doubtful.



Its a happy dyno, dont buy the numbers. The track would sort out what is what.
True theyr only numbers but I think I might have a little edge in the power dept and yes he says the cobra cam is "torqey" haha
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Originally Posted by mateols1ss
Are you an m6 car?
Yeah
https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...y-numbers.html
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It just depends. When I had AFR 165s, Performer intake, and a cam I was stomping bolt on LS1s. Its all in the combination with the 5.0s. If the person knows what they are doing watch out, if they are the typical owners then don't worry about them.
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11.9@112.9mph here with AFR heads, custom cam, and a cobra intake. I think he may very well smash you. Then again, if it's really the stock cam and he doesnt' have the supporting bolt-ons you might win. It should be a fun race in that case.

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AFR 165's are pretty decent heads from what I've read. He could be making as much or more power than you with the right supporting parts and cam.
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Unlike the HO cam the stock Cobra cam is terrible along with the ecm. If that car is tuned and has gears you could be in some trouble.
I ran 110- 111MPH traps with a Cobra ecm,e/f cams(actually slowed down with F since I was n/a and stock cr) and GT 40X heads ported with a hone Cobra intake manifold in a Fox body at full weight. Those AFRs and Holley are much better than what I ran but that Cobra is bigger...
Good luck. I think you can can take him!
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Originally Posted by Chris Arnold
11.9@112.9mph here with AFR heads, custom cam, and a cobra intake. I think he may very well smash you. Then again, if it's really the stock cam and he doesnt' have the supporting bolt-ons you might win. It should be a fun race in that case.

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I don't think the stock cam and the Holley intake are going to mash very well.
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Originally Posted by Mike Morris
Unlike the HO cam the stock Cobra cam is terrible along with the ecm. If that car is tuned and has gears you could be in some trouble.
I ran 110- 111MPH traps with a Cobra ecm,e/f cams(actually slowed down with F since I was n/a and stock cr) and GT 40X heads ported with a hone Cobra intake manifold in a Fox body at full weight. Those AFRs and Holley are much better than what I ran but that Cobra is bigger...
Good luck. I think you can can take him!
Confirmed stock cam and stock gears. If he wins I have an excuse to get my cam and LT's sooner along with the 4.10s next month.
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He sounds like a guy who is randomly building his car of various internet info. I'm thinking you are gonna walk him pretty good. Let us know the results either way! Vid would also help, especially a vid of his car idling.
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Originally Posted by mateols1ss
Confirmed stock cam and stock gears. If he wins I have an excuse to get my cam and LT's sooner along with the 4.10s next month.
You have it in the bag do problem, the guy who built that sounds like an idiot and built it completely wrong

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He sounds like a guy who is randomly building his car of various internet info. I'm thinking you are gonna walk him pretty good. Let us know the results either way! Vid would also help, especially a vid of his car idling.
I agree
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Originally Posted by Sticks n Stones
He sounds like a guy who is randomly building his car of various internet info. I'm thinking you are gonna walk him pretty good. Let us know the results either way! Vid would also help, especially a vid of his car idling.
Will do my friend. He told me he wants to keep the stock cam because of the smog issue here in california. He wants to get gears to help the low end but hes gotta wait as of now.
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if you don't Post results some time soon they are going to move this tread. Looks like you my may not run the guy if he's bs on his mods. Hope you do run him, I wouldn't worry about loseing.
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I concur. Stock cam isn't going to do well at higher rpm regardless of the intake, and the systemax intake will do better in the 5000+ rpm range. So you're right, it's absolutely mismatched. That said, I bet the car will still make decent power, and it may actually still be quicker than the same combo with a GT40/cobra intake because of the slightly better power on top. It won't be as torquey down low, though. He's got the right heads and intake for his displacement, just the wrong cam. Still I'll bet the right shift point will still be around or above 6k.

To the OP: stock gears being 2.73s means that you are going to crush him badly off of the line. Run from a stop and put him at a very bad disadvantage. Let him get into the powerband and run from a roll, and it will negate his initial disadvantage.

Good luck.
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So when's the race?



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