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Old 09-12-2010, 02:39 PM
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Default 00 Cammed T/A vs 11 Mustang 5.0

2000 Trans am WS6 M6
MTI Lid
Stock LS1 intake
227/233 on 112lsa custom ground cam
Kooks Lt's with ORY, Magnaflow with E-cutout.
ASP under-drive pulley
stock 3.42 gears

402/378 on a Mustang Dyno

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2011 Mustang 5.0 GT
6 speed with 3.73 gears from factory
Dyno Tune

He dynoed at 385/369 on a Dynojet


Read the results below:


https://ls1tech.com/forums/dyno-benc...l#post13854733


in 7 days he is installing

Stainless Works Full Exhaust with high flow cats, JLT CAI, re-tune.

^ This race will have a video to go along with it.

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cut-out was closed during these races which brings my dyno numbers to 394/378.
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I have to see this rematch.
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I say with cutout open it should be neck and neck when he gets his new mods..I know my car runs better with the cutout open as its tuned for it
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Should be interesting: your mild cam and his mild upgrades. I think he is VERY delusional if he believes his intake/exhaust will gain him 40rwhp though.
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with that cam a ls6 intake would bring you an instant 20rwhp
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Originally Posted by Sticks n Stones
Should be interesting: your mild cam and his mild upgrades. I think he is VERY delusional if he believes his intake/exhaust will gain him 40rwhp though.
The typical CAI has been showing dyno gains of 10rwhp and full exhaust has been showing 25+rwhp. On Wednesday, the 22nd he is getting his mods installed + dyno-tuned. I'm honestly expecting to get pulled by a car length or two, maybe more ?


Originally Posted by 396D1SS
with that cam a ls6 intake would bring you an instant 20rwhp
I agree, I need a new intake manifold and some gears BAD !!



My car does 80mph in second and 112mph in 3rd. I believe he told me that his 4th gear topped out at 115mph.
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Don't believe the hype: he will gain maybe 25rwhp from those mods. Figure that will make a 1/2 car difference against you in the same type of run. The same as if you put on a LS6 intake.

Just dont race him from a dig unless you got some good tires and experience at dig racing! Those things hook really well.

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Originally Posted by Sticks n Stones
Don't believe the hype: he will gain maybe 25rwhp from those mods. Figure that will make a 1/2 car difference against you in the same type of run. The same as if you put on a LS6 intake.

Just dont race him from a dig unless you got some good tires and experience at dig racing! Those things hook really well.
I will keep that in mind. Thanks !


here is his dyno tune only from a few weeks ago..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gMswt0tr38
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Bolt on 5.0's are gonna be making like 450rwhp.
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Originally Posted by Ju1ce
Bolt on 5.0's are gonna be making like 450rwhp.
hahaha go back to your hole Juice! Not like you are going to be worried.
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With headers he should make 420-430rwhp. Will be a good race either way, good luck.
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Originally Posted by LS2 KLR
With headers he should make 420-430rwhp. Will be a good race either way, good luck.
So you think his 5.0 that ALREADY HAS headers from the factory is going to pickup MORE rwhp than a LS1, 2, or 3 car doing the same upgrade???
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Dude, they make 395whp, bone stock...
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Well these may be really high reading dyno's but here's a normal dude's 5.0 with some bolt-on's:

"Steeda cold air kit, tune, lethal performance x-pipe, and magnaflow street catback. It made: 425.99 hp - 398.23 tq"

Here's another dude:

"The car[grey '11 5.0] also has ARH LTs (awsome headers and company guys), K&N drop in, 4.30s and a tune. it twisted out 411rwhp and 390rwtq."

Another owner:
"so with everything on [steeda cai, magnaflow axleback] and no tune it made 399 hp.... stock it made 385.... so once tuned it made 415 with 394 tq... very good numbers for the air quality here in kc and it was 92* today.."

So that's three normal guys, not shop cars, that are all making over 400rwhp with a few bolt-on's.

Here's a shop car:

"The car, a 6-speed manual, was baselined with a stock tune before the install with roughly 5,000 miles and made 390 RWHP / 384 RWTQ. The only modification was OEM Shelby GT500 mufflers.

With our previous dyno tune loaded, it made 418 RWHP / 400 RWTQ.

After installing the Steeda CAI and re-tuning, it made 430 RWHP / 410 RWTQ. A gain of 12 RWHP / 10 RWTQ.

Dyno Sheet"

Those numbers are probably a little inflated but shows that the 5.0 has a good deal of potential.
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@ Ju1ce's hard-on for the new 5.0.
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Originally Posted by Sticks n Stones
So you think his 5.0 that ALREADY HAS headers from the factory is going to pickup MORE rwhp than a LS1, 2, or 3 car doing the same upgrade???
After reading this thread I was curious and looked over a couple of 2011 sections on the stang boards. With headers and bolt ons people were making 415-430. Some of you guys may want to cry about it but think of how us outdated stang owners feel, lol.
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Congrats on the wind... sounds like you need heads and an LS6 intake.
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Im glad ford finally has a na player, but we def don't have anything to cry about. Drop a decent cam in an old ls1 and make similar #s..not that far off if you ask me
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Ya the 5.0's are def no joke especially when theyre low optioned with 3.73's like ur friends appears to be only weighing 3580... You still have the ls1 i take it drop an ls6 in there and I bet youll see another 20whp. And you said your ta prolly weighs more than the 3580? If thats the case take watever extra stuff u hav in it out and run that race again I bet youll edge him out better haha.



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