Ran up against another '11 5.0
12-28-2010, 09:43 AM
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ive seen a ton of f-bodies run high 13's and low 14's and even have it on video. It happens. If a 370rwhp 3600lbs car (that ALSO makes more tq) loses to a 300rwhp 3500lbs car, its obvious what just happened isnt the typical outcome.
12-28-2010, 11:35 AM
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You've also had your car for quite some time, IIRC. All I'm saying is that you can't expect every guy you run on the street to be completely on his game. That has nothing to do with your race, it's more in response to the people saying, "Well I guess the 5.0s aren't all they're cracked up to be blah blah blah."
12-28-2010, 11:40 AM
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the biggest variable i notice about comparing with older cars is a lot of them have some kind of weight reduction done to them and is never mentioned. I always hear people say " with intake and exhaust i ran xx.xx time" but also dont mention that they removed 300lbs of stuff and running on 1 gallon of gas or whatever.
12-28-2010, 12:23 PM
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I was waiting for the excuses lol. These die hard Ford guys just can't comprehend that a lightly modded LS1 will run with the new 5.0 GT.
I think Manny posted that he beat a base model 5.0 a few months back and immediately the Ford guys were all upset saying he should have raced a TracPac. Now he raced and beat a TracPac 5.0 they're only explanation is that the GT driver wasn't on his A game.
Every time an LS1 owner races a 5.0 owner we're going to have to make sure the 5.0 driver sanctioned to race and take the LS1 to the scales to make sure we didn't loose 300 lbs
I think Manny posted that he beat a base model 5.0 a few months back and immediately the Ford guys were all upset saying he should have raced a TracPac. Now he raced and beat a TracPac 5.0 they're only explanation is that the GT driver wasn't on his A game.
Every time an LS1 owner races a 5.0 owner we're going to have to make sure the 5.0 driver sanctioned to race and take the LS1 to the scales to make sure we didn't loose 300 lbs
12-28-2010, 12:40 PM
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I was waiting for the excuses lol. These die hard Ford guys just can't comprehend that a lightly modded LS1 will run with the new 5.0 GT.
I think Manny posted that he beat a base model 5.0 a few months back and immediately the Ford guys were all upset saying he should have raced a TracPac. Now he raced and beat a TracPac 5.0 they're only explanation is that the GT driver wasn't on his A game.
Every time an LS1 owner races a 5.0 owner we're going to have to make sure the 5.0 driver sanctioned to race and take the LS1 to the scales to make sure we didn't loose 300 lbs
I think Manny posted that he beat a base model 5.0 a few months back and immediately the Ford guys were all upset saying he should have raced a TracPac. Now he raced and beat a TracPac 5.0 they're only explanation is that the GT driver wasn't on his A game.
Every time an LS1 owner races a 5.0 owner we're going to have to make sure the 5.0 driver sanctioned to race and take the LS1 to the scales to make sure we didn't loose 300 lbs
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12-28-2010, 01:07 PM
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not necesarily. We know things can happen. LT1 cars beat LS1 cars all the time. The power to weight differences between those two cars is extremely similar to the 5.0 vs LS1. So we are aware that these things happen. Its not like the "ford guys" came in here insulting anyone with name calling or gay smilies so please dont try to turn this one into a flame war and keep it civil/grown up.
12-28-2010, 01:30 PM
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Considering the Mach1 and LS1 has less distance between it and a LS1 and a 5.0, and it's hard to get anyone in here to admit the Mach1 and LS1 are drivers races, how is the LS1 and 5.0 so?
12-28-2010, 01:31 PM
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I think he was just referring to all of the excuses the Ford guys were using instead of understanding "things can happen" and saying good kill and moving on. When these cars were released I said it was going to be a drivers race between them and a LS1 f body with a slight edge to the Stang. All the Ford guys said "noway blah blah blah". Anyway it looks like it is indeed just that, both owners will have to be on their toes when racing the other and thats awesome and the way it should be.
12-28-2010, 01:50 PM
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I think it's a good combination of manny's car running hard for what it is and a poor driver in the 5.0
My little brother has one and I've driven it, ridden in it, and raced it. His is the 3.55 gears and it's still fast for stock.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, if you stock/ light bolt on ls1 guys run up on a well driven 5.0 you're going to get your feelings hurt if you're not on your A game IMO.
My little brother has one and I've driven it, ridden in it, and raced it. His is the 3.55 gears and it's still fast for stock.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, if you stock/ light bolt on ls1 guys run up on a well driven 5.0 you're going to get your feelings hurt if you're not on your A game IMO.
12-28-2010, 02:02 PM
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12-28-2010, 02:11 PM
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nice ****** kill man...i know the new 5.0 is a far cry from the feeble 2vs and seminot feeble 3vs...ford actually didnt do a bad job with it they fianlly stepped up their game
12-28-2010, 02:50 PM
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I said driver mod because 1. A LS1 with a filter like Manny says his car has isn't going to outrun a 11' 5.0 with an equal driver. 2. You can clearly see in the video when the 5.0 shifts it falls back quite a bit (ex: shitty driver)
IMO its going to be hard to run up on a good driver in a brand new 2011 GT out on the street. Most I've seen have older guys that baby the car and if they do get on the car like in video they do not plan to shift it "like they stole it".
12-28-2010, 03:39 PM
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What is funny and I dont have a dog in this fight so dont care and if I was buying a new "muscle/pony" car I'd be the new 5.0 so Im very unbiased, but that these "excuses" of shitty drivers the Ford guys are now saying are the same "excuses" of shitty drivers the LS1 guys used when a 2V or even the 99 Cobras would beat an LS1. I just find it amusing the way the things flip back and forth between these two companies brand loyal guys.
12-28-2010, 03:57 PM
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not necesarily. We know things can happen. LT1 cars beat LS1 cars all the time. The power to weight differences between those two cars is extremely similar to the 5.0 vs LS1. So we are aware that these things happen. Its not like the "ford guys" came in here insulting anyone with name calling or gay smilies so please dont try to turn this one into a flame war and keep it civil/grown up.
320-340 rwhp in a 3500 lbs (typical bolt-ons LS1 car) vs. 350-370rwhp in a 3700 lbs (typical stock GT car) = a close race. Yes the 5.0 is definitely a step up from 2V and 3V's but I still think they're are hyped up. I guess I'm just partial to Termis and older foxbodys.
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12-28-2010, 04:00 PM
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