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Old 07-30-2011, 03:43 PM
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Also for all of you bitching about ford using high reving engines. The ls1 record was done turning 9300 in a mustang
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Originally Posted by Bitemark46
I give up. I provide facts and you can't show me a 346 that has more power than a little 331/322. The discussion was about motors not ET's. That 4.6 motor was built by BES engines. Google them. If you really don't understand that dyno then that shows what you don't know. I'm done with you bench racers. Have a good weekend behind the keyboard. I'm going to port some intakes.

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Theres nothing "little" about a mod motor, those things are the size of a small barn.
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Hey automach......What does yours run?????again...lol

As far as rpm goes I always thought those mod motors ran out of breath early. Since mod motors are so great why are'nt the breaking into the dirt latemodel seen as the ls motor. My buddy has a engine shop with dyno and he built one and it made like 840hp.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Hey automach......What does yours run?????again...lol

As far as rpm goes I always thought those mod motors ran out of breath early.
Fast enough. Lol ok
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So let me get this right....you talk all this **** and have nothing to share about your own experiances in the world of fast n/a mod motors.....correct?
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
So let me get this right....you talk all this **** and have nothing to share about your own experiances in the world of fast n/a mod motors.....correct?
I have plenty of vids agains other cars. My car went 12.6 @ 112 with mild-boltons at 3500lbs+. Has not been to the track with the new set of mods
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Did you weigh it? 3500 is alot for a mach. My friends with a turbo kit weights 3260 w/o him. It does have a kmember but otherwise complete. Not bad for a bolt-on mach, pretty typical.....maybe even a little quick.
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I guess you see alot of this.....I think I can I think I can
http://youtu.be/F4QE91_jRKM
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Originally Posted by automach1
I have plenty of vids agains other cars. My car went 12.6 @ 112 with mild-boltons at 3500lbs+. Has not been to the track with the new set of mods
Lets see a vid or a timeslip or it didn't happen
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Did you weigh it? 3500 is alot for a mach. My friends with a turbo kit weights 3260 w/o him. It does have a kmember but otherwise complete. Not bad for a bolt-on mach, pretty typical.....maybe even a little quick.
Seems a little light for only a k-member for reduction
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Why will no one tell me how much the average 5.4l mod motor makes with off the shelf parts and head porting?
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Old 07-30-2011, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
I guess you see alot of this.....I think I can I think I can
http://youtu.be/F4QE91_jRKM
Yea..like this too..Those Damn MACHs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS8vpGHMZBM
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Originally Posted by MACH32V
Yea..like this too..Those Damn MACHs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS8vpGHMZBM
And your point? That's a stock A4 w/ 3.73's vs. a X-pipe/tuned 5M....both are mid 13-second cars, that's expected.

Now a 6M LS1 would show that Mach tail lights.
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Hell it looked like in that last run the mach was gettin pulled. If the auto guy would have started in the right gear instead of letting the auto down shift it would've been worse. M6 would've yanked him pretty good. Both vids are close, both are auto ls vs stick mach.
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Non-stalled auto racing?

No thanks. Doesn't matter what brand it is.
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Originally Posted by ilovechevy1
you aint' proved **** so STFU and let the men talk here..this argument has evolved away from your petty 5.4> than an LS1 argument..wich is dumb anyhow seeing as how anybody in their mom knows if you push an LS1 hard enough it can blow any smaller displacement engine out the water as long as forged internal are'nt involved
More rules? I like it... "Let's race all out! But hey, NO FORGED INTERNALS, okay? Gotta keep in fair for the inferior engines."

Also, I don't think I'd mention being "in mom" around here...
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Some people on here bitch about excuses and then the say **** like looked like he was getting pulled on at the end or you may et the same as me but i trapped higher. Well learn how to put the power to the ground only role race or shut up
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Originally Posted by MACH32V
Yea..like this too..Those Damn MACHs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS8vpGHMZBM
Nice comparing a manual mach 1 with mods to a basicly stock a4 ls1
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Originally Posted by automach1
Interesting it goes 9.0 @ 149 then all the way to 9.6 wtf lol I can find more 5.4s going deep in the 9s then ls1s hmm lol and Als car has been 9.0s that is some of his older times.



Remeber modulars started in 96. ls1s started in 97 . Therfore your argument is flawed



lol big talk coming from a bolt-on, cam, fi ls1 still in the 11s
first off **** head...my car had major issues at the time AND STILL ran an 11.3 !! wich is STILL well beond your bolt on MACH 1 so STFU..my bearings where shot in my S/C belt tensioner pulley...it was praticly locked up 70% of the time..as well as me having major fuel pressure issues..those have ALL been fixed now...and i wont' be going back to the track till the end of August..but you can bet your *** it will be 10's now...also **** monkey..that 11.3 was ran with a STOCK 10 bolt rear (very weak) with stock 3.23 gears.. so i was babying it off the line and STILL cut LOW 1.6 60fters ...car also is running MID tube headers..and the car still has cats on it!!..and this was on a DD tune not a race tune...catch me on the road and i bet i'll blow your **** out the water with my A/C on and only using my cruise control button to accelerate!...and another thing *******..atleast i have vids up of my car..everything i say about my car IS RIGHT THERE IN THE LINK!!...you have NO vids..NO links..nothing but you loud *** mouth you been running!..post up or shut up!
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Originally Posted by It'llrun
More rules? I like it... "Let's race all out! But hey, NO FORGED INTERNALS, okay? Gotta keep in fair for the inferior engines."

Also, I don't think I'd mention being "in mom" around here...
not all 4.6 and 5.4's are forged as i'm sure you know..this whole argument over my engine this, and your engine that...it's easily solved by SIMPLE MATH...the bigger engine has more power potential...anyone who argues different does'nt understand physics and science...take any 2 engines regardless of WHO makes it..ANY 2 engines..i will even help you understand this better by makeing a Ford engine win my example...take, let's say...an old 5.0 305 used in the 3rd gen camaro's...and then compare it with a 5.4 L out of a Ford truck..ok..we have a 5.0 VS a 5.4...now take both engines and put the BEST heads..the best cam..or cam's if your a Ford engine (gay# of cams lol)..and put the SAME ammount of boost on them...that .4 L difference is gona make a signifigant power difference in FAVOR of the FORD engine...so in that case the FORD 5.4 would win...now do the same with a 5.4 and an LS1 ...it's gona be the opposite..now take a Big Block Ford engine and max out the mods and do the same with the LS1 and the BBF engine will make more power...there is NO being biased here..no picking Chevy over Ford in this argument...only bringing simple math and physics to solve a math problem

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