1997 Cobra vs 1994 Z28 **VIDEO**
07-08-2011, 07:19 PM
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It was just a simple little plastic or nylon piece that could be easily removed by lifting the shifter cover and cutting it off.
07-08-2011, 07:19 PM
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On the '93s, from a roll the 2.73 cars have a 'sweet spot' right around 30-35 ish, where if you yank it from D to 1st gear position (which will actually be hidden on a GU2 car) @ WOT, it will hit - HARD! Get it into 2nd before you hit the limiter and it will pull much harder than rolling out in 'D' and letting it shift on its own. Thats the good thing about the 700R4(4L60) in '92/93...they will shift on command with little to no delay.
I already cut it off lol, one of the first things I did. I just try and avoid down shifting into first if I'm already rolling faster then like 10-15mph. 160k on the clock and I like being better safe then sorry. It was not treated correctly before I got it...
07-08-2011, 07:25 PM
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No doubt it will, 160k on the clock not gonna risk things for no reason lol when its rebuild it will get a manual valve body so that wont be an issue any more. Ill take a loss and spare my tranny. but even still, second in my car is awful, 2.xxs murder it. They suck, I don't even remember what they are lol
07-08-2011, 07:27 PM
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07-08-2011, 07:31 PM
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Maybe he's talking launching harder? That's what I've always thought of about stangs. Can launch much harder off that than the 10 bolt (on the track), but other than that, I can't see what Irun14s is saying. Mustangs like to stick around until ~50 then die off quick.
Eh, maybe a very well driven Cobra vs a non-headered LS1, I could see it. Definitely can see it against a 2.73 LS1, even one with headers. My buddy's was a totally ******* dog with those gears.
Eh, maybe a very well driven Cobra vs a non-headered LS1, I could see it. Definitely can see it against a 2.73 LS1, even one with headers. My buddy's was a totally ******* dog with those gears.
07-08-2011, 07:39 PM
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If I recall, most people were saying that a geared/bolt-on Cobra would be a driver's race against most bolt-on LS1 F-bodies in the 1/4 mile. As a rule, Mustangs have usually been strongest from a stop. Though everybody has jokes, I don't think anybody would deny that bolt-on LT1s are strong cars.
07-08-2011, 07:42 PM
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He actually has a very mild stall converter for it, waiting to go in. It's probably not going to give a big improvement, but since it was free, even a tenth or two would make the swap worth it.
I wondered why they did that. Seems odd since the 2.73 gear car will turn lower rpm at the same mph.
Even with the 3.42's, my brother's car noticeably falls off once it hit's 3rd gear. We're hoping that a 3.73 will help that some.
Even with the 3.42's, my brother's car noticeably falls off once it hit's 3rd gear. We're hoping that a 3.73 will help that some.
07-08-2011, 08:05 PM
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Posts like this make me think you just like arguing with me... I was pretty obviously saying that a Mustangs' strong point is going from a dig, rather than from a roll. Which is why a bolt-on/geared Cobra has a much better chance running a bolt-on F-body from a dig than it does from a roll.
I did not say "Mustangs have been strongER than F-bodies from a stop." I was talking about a Mustang racing from a dig vs. a roll.
I did not say "Mustangs have been strongER than F-bodies from a stop." I was talking about a Mustang racing from a dig vs. a roll.
It had to do with the cars having to pass through the sound traps at certain speed in the lowest selectable gear. The 3.23 car won't allow a manual downshift @ that speed, while a 2.73 ratio will - increasing engine and exhaust noise. Therefore GM had to block 1st gear in order to meet Federal guidelines.
07-08-2011, 11:01 PM
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If I recall, most people were saying that a geared/bolt-on Cobra would be a driver's race against most bolt-on LS1 F-bodies in the 1/4 mile. As a rule, Mustangs have usually been strongest from a stop. Though everybody has jokes, I don't think anybody would deny that bolt-on LT1s are strong cars.
These owners with gears and slicks go around racing stock Camaros from a dig, jump out to about 70mph and hit the brakes conveniently before the Camaro comes flying past. The myth that stopsign and Idontrun11s perpetuate comes from these experiences.
These same guys then go to the track in their under powered, over tire'd cars and run mid-low 13's @ 95mph... and lose to Z24 Cavaliers on the highway that run 15's.
07-09-2011, 06:17 AM
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It had to do with the cars having to pass through the sound traps at certain speed in the lowest selectable gear. The 3.23 car won't allow a manual downshift @ that speed, while a 2.73 ratio will - increasing engine and exhaust noise. Therefore GM had to block 1st gear in order to meet Federal guidelines.
It also makes me wonder, who the hell thinks of these nonsense tests?
07-09-2011, 08:53 AM
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Posts like this make me think you just like arguing with me... I was pretty obviously saying that a Mustangs' strong point is going from a dig, rather than from a roll. Which is why a bolt-on/geared Cobra has a much better chance running a bolt-on F-body from a dig than it does from a roll.
I did not say "Mustangs have been strongER than F-bodies from a stop." I was talking about a Mustang racing from a dig vs. a roll.
I did not say "Mustangs have been strongER than F-bodies from a stop." I was talking about a Mustang racing from a dig vs. a roll.
07-09-2011, 02:31 PM
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Ok, you're absolutely right. The aggressive gearing of the T45 and 3650 in 1st and 2nd gear, plus the 8.8" rearend with 3.27s/3.55s/3.73s definitely lends itself to roll racing. People with bolt-on/geared Cobras should do 50mph punches instead of dig races.
07-09-2011, 04:38 PM
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Good video Ron! The video looks exactly like my runs from a dig against a buddy with a 97 Cobra with 4.10's and almost full bolt-ons.
He wants a rematch for money with me with his secret "new motor setup" that will "puppy kick" my car. Thankfully, I conveniently forgot to tell him how I installed the nitrous awhile back
07-10-2011, 01:05 AM
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The video looks exactly like my runs from a dig against a buddy with a 97 Cobra with 4.10's and almost full bolt-ons.
He wants a rematch for money with me with his secret "new motor setup" that will "puppy kick" my car. Thankfully, I conveniently forgot to tell him how I installed the nitrous awhile back
He wants a rematch for money with me with his secret "new motor setup" that will "puppy kick" my car. Thankfully, I conveniently forgot to tell him how I installed the nitrous awhile back
07-16-2011, 09:59 AM
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This reminds me of a thread a while back where a few guys were arguing with me that a mild bolt-on/geared 96-98 Cobra was a drivers race for a bolt-on LS1, and that an LT1 was no match - not even on the radar. I wonder if F8L Byte, It'llrun, Bitemark and the rest of them will chime and explain what happened in this case
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I wonder if F8L Byte, It'llrun, Bitemark and the rest of them will chime and explain what happened in this case... Come on, I thought you were smarter than that. I'd be gladly to run any bolt-on catfish in Tampa and post the vid here.