Cam only LS1 vs 2012 5.0
05-14-2012, 10:08 AM
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The whole point of saying stuff like that is so you don't have to run down all the mods you have. It works because those modding the cars generally have enough sense to do the supporting mods for the cam first. It's rare to find a ls1 with a cam and no headers/lid/exhaust/etc.
I still don't say it that way if I'm not talking to people who are familiar enough with the cars to get it though. That being said, this is a lsx site so it's understood here.
LS1 cars usually are described as: bolt on, full bolt on, cam only, head/cam. Some people also go beyond to head/cam/intake if they have a Fast/vic jr/some other intake which is notably superior to the ls6 intake.
I still don't say it that way if I'm not talking to people who are familiar enough with the cars to get it though. That being said, this is a lsx site so it's understood here.
LS1 cars usually are described as: bolt on, full bolt on, cam only, head/cam. Some people also go beyond to head/cam/intake if they have a Fast/vic jr/some other intake which is notably superior to the ls6 intake.
appreciate the explanation sir.
05-15-2012, 11:08 AM
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I have a 2013 5.0 and a 99 "cam only" trans am. The mustang has a catback and no tune. The trans am makes 389/381 so I think the power should be close but my trans am will pull it. I'm pretty sure after I get the mustang tuned it will be a different story.
05-15-2012, 01:39 PM
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Sounds right from here. 
From a 40 roll with a passenger and giving up the start? I don't think so.
The 2013 is apparently a bit more powerful than the 11-12 model. Donno which weighs most, so maybe that added power is a wash. Maybe Ford just bumped the advertisement like GM did for the V6 Camaro for 2012. Or did GM make a change with that engine? Doesn't matter, but it may amount to the same thing.
Heh... Of course, the rest of the world doesn't really know that "cam only" means, "cam, plus everything else short of stroking the engine." I've known 2 knuckle-heads who claimed cam only and they had re-worked heads and all.... Some people just don't want to admit what they've done.
The 2013 is apparently a bit more powerful than the 11-12 model. Donno which weighs most, so maybe that added power is a wash. Maybe Ford just bumped the advertisement like GM did for the V6 Camaro for 2012. Or did GM make a change with that engine? Doesn't matter, but it may amount to the same thing.
Nope, just cam only. You see in the ls scene, guys don't just slap in a cam without the supporting mods. We're silly like that...
05-15-2012, 02:27 PM
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Not really but ok..LAst full bolt on Fbody I seen run a stock 5.0 lost over and over at the track. Both on street tires. But never know. I know from aexperiance a full bolt on 02 Ta don't hang at all with a bolt on 5.0. We had a thread that covered that about a year ago. Put a bunch cars on him me spinning. They was buddies. Both averaged 12.7 or above.
. Sorry, but yes...really. What you've seen and what exists are not interchangeable imo. The whole point of saying stuff like that is so you don't have to run down all the mods you have. It works because those modding the cars generally have enough sense to do the supporting mods for the cam first. It's rare to find a ls1 with a cam and no headers/lid/exhaust/etc.
I still don't say it that way if I'm not talking to people who are familiar enough with the cars to get it though. That being said, this is a lsx site so it's understood here.
LS1 cars usually are described as: bolt on, full bolt on, cam only, head/cam. Some people also go beyond to head/cam/intake if they have a Fast/vic jr/some other intake which is notably superior to the ls6 intake.
I still don't say it that way if I'm not talking to people who are familiar enough with the cars to get it though. That being said, this is a lsx site so it's understood here.
LS1 cars usually are described as: bolt on, full bolt on, cam only, head/cam. Some people also go beyond to head/cam/intake if they have a Fast/vic jr/some other intake which is notably superior to the ls6 intake.
Sounds right from here. From a 40 roll with a passenger and giving up the start? I don't think so.
The 2013 is apparently a bit more powerful than the 11-12 model. Donno which weighs most, so maybe that added power is a wash. Maybe Ford just bumped the advertisement like GM did for the V6 Camaro for 2012. Or did GM make a change with that engine? Doesn't matter, but it may amount to the same thing.
Heh... Of course, the rest of the world doesn't really know that "cam only" means, "cam, plus everything else short of stroking the engine." I've known 2 knuckle-heads who claimed cam only and they had re-worked heads and all.... Some people just don't want to admit what they've done.
From a 40 roll with a passenger and giving up the start? I don't think so.The 2013 is apparently a bit more powerful than the 11-12 model. Donno which weighs most, so maybe that added power is a wash. Maybe Ford just bumped the advertisement like GM did for the V6 Camaro for 2012. Or did GM make a change with that engine? Doesn't matter, but it may amount to the same thing.
Heh... Of course, the rest of the world doesn't really know that "cam only" means, "cam, plus everything else short of stroking the engine." I've known 2 knuckle-heads who claimed cam only and they had re-worked heads and all.... Some people just don't want to admit what they've done.
05-15-2012, 04:54 PM
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Cam only also includes the use of a $1500 intake manifold/tb setup. I've never considered the intake manifold to be a bolt on, given the cost and the fact that it's part of the top end of the engine.
05-15-2012, 05:26 PM
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it's ok.....i got it. cam only means there's a cam other than stock in the engine, and whatever the hell else that the owner doesn't want to tell you about when you're about to race him. i would imagine it's become this way, because if they admitted to having all that stuff, then people wouldn't run them.
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05-15-2012, 09:44 PM
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Also, nobody was talking about a bolt on car. We are talking about what is included in "Cam Only".
05-18-2012, 04:32 PM
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Ok I'll correct. 1500 dollar intake is not usually the norm in a cam only setup, and when it is...it is stated. That's how I see things here and everywhere else. Sorry I misread your post...dick Bolt on is not anything that "bolts on"...I mean come on man, a new engine bolts right in too lol jk.
Bolt on is not anything that "bolts on"...I mean come on man, a new engine bolts right in too lol jk. 