ZL1 vs. GT500 Insideline (Bittersweet)
06-12-2012, 02:25 AM
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ZL1 vs. GT500 Insideline (Bittersweet) 1/4 mile
GT500 11.9@123mph
ZL1 12.4@116mph
60-0 Braking
GT500 109ft
ZL1 110ft
Skid Pad:
GT500 .98 G's
ZL1 1.03 G's
"Shelby is the much quicker accelerating car...the Camaro however has it covered in the handling department, NO CONTEST!"
http://youtu.be/Viwp4RuwuYw
Interesting numbers at our home track w/shitty DA.
GT500 11.9@123mph
ZL1 12.4@116mph
60-0 Braking
GT500 109ft
ZL1 110ft
Skid Pad:
GT500 .98 G's
ZL1 1.03 G's
"Shelby is the much quicker accelerating car...the Camaro however has it covered in the handling department, NO CONTEST!"
http://youtu.be/Viwp4RuwuYw
Interesting numbers at our home track w/shitty DA.
06-12-2012, 02:36 AM
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I figured this. If you look at the list of cars the ZL1 has beat around the Nurburgring... you'll see they spent way too much time at the road course, and not enough IMO at the strip. Its not a slouch by any means...
HOWEVER, IN MY OPINION
GM needs to figure out what they want their cars to be, and then go at it. Treating the Camaro the same way they treat the CTS-V is killing them. When it comes down to Camaro, fewer people are looking at how great it handles, and more are looking at how it does in a 1/4. Being half a second slower at the end of the day is no great feat.
HOWEVER, IN MY OPINION
GM needs to figure out what they want their cars to be, and then go at it. Treating the Camaro the same way they treat the CTS-V is killing them. When it comes down to Camaro, fewer people are looking at how great it handles, and more are looking at how it does in a 1/4. Being half a second slower at the end of the day is no great feat.
06-12-2012, 02:54 AM
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I figured this. If you look at the list of cars the ZL1 has beat around the Nurburgring... you'll see they spent way too much time at the road course, and not enough IMO at the strip. Its not a slouch by any means...
HOWEVER, IN MY OPINION
GM needs to figure out what they want their cars to be, and then go at it. Treating the Camaro the same way they treat the CTS-V is killing them. When it comes down to Camaro, fewer people are looking at how great it handles, and more are looking at how it does in a 1/4. Being half a second slower at the end of the day is no great feat.
HOWEVER, IN MY OPINION
GM needs to figure out what they want their cars to be, and then go at it. Treating the Camaro the same way they treat the CTS-V is killing them. When it comes down to Camaro, fewer people are looking at how great it handles, and more are looking at how it does in a 1/4. Being half a second slower at the end of the day is no great feat.
06-12-2012, 02:55 AM
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^^I agree. I would take the underrated and luxurious CTS-V(V2) over the ZL1 at this point. Looks like GM needs to loosen up w/the warranty risk factor, increase boost and put the 5th gen on a diet.
I guess I was correct in being skeptical of the GT500 out-handling a C6Z06.
I guess I was correct in being skeptical of the GT500 out-handling a C6Z06.
06-12-2012, 03:32 AM
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i agree with both DOGGYB22 and CYBERGREY Z28...a diet would be awesome, please call jenny craig...it out weigh's the GTR...**** that's a heavy car...1/4 times are off as well...MOTOR TREND GOT A 12.1@117.4...CAR & DRIVER GOT A 12.3@119MPH...i heard that evan smith ran one with DR's and had gotten a 11.8-11.9...i believe that the shelby can do better then 11.9...evan got a 11.8 hot lapping it...so far the best i heard was a 11.6...i really love the ZL1, just wanted a little more in a straight line is all.
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06-12-2012, 07:11 AM
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i agree with both DOGGYB22 and CYBERGREY Z28...a diet would be awesome, please call jenny craig...it out weigh's the GTR...**** that's a heavy car...1/4 times are off as well...MOTOR TREND GOT A 12.1@117.4...CAR & DRIVER GOT A 12.3@119MPH...i heard that evan smith ran one with DR's and had gotten a 11.8-11.9...i believe that the shelby can do better then 11.9...evan got a 11.8 hot lapping it...so far the best i heard was a 11.6...i really love the ZL1, just wanted a little more in a straight line is all.
06-12-2012, 07:51 AM
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The odd part is that the GT500 makes 80hp more, weighs 300lb less and there is only a .5 difference. The difference should be closer to a full second. The 300lb alone should've got it .3.
06-12-2012, 08:20 AM
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Ive always liked trapp speeds, your the one that flip flops back and forth to whichever one benefits you the most. Now with that said I don't mean a 13.0 120 car, have a little sense about it.
06-12-2012, 08:49 AM
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In 99% of real world races by private owners, the ZL1 will have its hands full with a Boss, never mind a GT500.
06-12-2012, 08:59 AM
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odthetruth, is correct, GM Please Learn SOMETHING FOR ONCE! Figure out what your car is suppose to be then do it, Ford got it right, Kudos. IMO why would you even compare the two cars, the camaro is not in the same league and is still a heavy POS and Ugly too. the prototype was sweet till they spliced the darn thing with a 67 rear end but that's my opinion. I wish GM would listen to there BUYERS for once their existence. All that motor the car is still a PIG. GM can put a dress on a pig but its still a PIG. 
06-12-2012, 09:06 AM
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I figured this. If you look at the list of cars the ZL1 has beat around the Nurburgring... you'll see they spent way too much time at the road course, and not enough IMO at the strip. Its not a slouch by any means...
HOWEVER, IN MY OPINION
GM needs to figure out what they want their cars to be, and then go at it. Treating the Camaro the same way they treat the CTS-V is killing them. When it comes down to Camaro, fewer people are looking at how great it handles, and more are looking at how it does in a 1/4. Being half a second slower at the end of the day is no great feat.
HOWEVER, IN MY OPINION
GM needs to figure out what they want their cars to be, and then go at it. Treating the Camaro the same way they treat the CTS-V is killing them. When it comes down to Camaro, fewer people are looking at how great it handles, and more are looking at how it does in a 1/4. Being half a second slower at the end of the day is no great feat.
As much as everyone here would like it to be (1/4 mile oriented), its not a one trick pony.
Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but Ive never heard a ricer say that they can smoke me through the twisties after I smoke them in a straight line...
06-12-2012, 09:08 AM
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not for nothing guys... but all these car "testers" (motortrend, car and driver, edmunds) all are sallys behind the wheel. The zl1 is the much easier to car drive do to its launch control and technology. The GT500 requires much more drag racing experience to drive it. I think you will find that both cars on drag radial with good drivers.... the ET gap will grow passed a half a second. Ive seen 11.4 at 126 out of the gt500 so far and 11.9 at 116 out of the zl1. If anyone here knows anything about drag racing, you would know that 11.4 at 126 is mediocre driving at best. And 11.9 at 116 is actually fairly efficient. Just saying
