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Old 06-28-2012, 08:26 AM
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Lot of nonsense in this thread.

I warned people on this board years ago 5.0s were no joke. I hang around,raced and driven many of them
However a full bolt on LS1 is not losing to a stock 5.0 or even one with a tune with good driving.
A tuned one taking out an average heads,cammed LS1....something is wrong with the driver or car

Ill run any bolt on n/a 5.0 at Cecil. It will be an *** kicking for them I promise.
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Good kills op. I can't wait to run one.
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New owner took my brothers old car and went 11.8s on drag radials with a cai, tune, and axle back. 11.6s on slicks, CS so not the 3.73s. 115mph

A friend has one with the 3.73, Ford Racing warrantied tune, GT500 catback, spare tire removed. Stock tires with just a clean off spin, no burnout. It has gone 12.6@113. It was trapping 111-112 stock. What baffles me is the car seems unaffected by DA. It runs the same MPH whether its 50* or 80* and humid.
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Originally Posted by thunderstruck507
New owner took my brothers old car and went 11.8s on drag radials with a cai, tune, and axle back. 11.6s on slicks, CS so not the 3.73s. 115mph

A friend has one with the 3.73, Ford Racing warrantied tune, GT500 catback, spare tire removed. Stock tires with just a clean off spin, no burnout. It has gone 12.6@113. It was trapping 111-112 stock. What baffles me is the car seems unaffected by DA. It runs the same MPH whether its 50* or 80* and humid.
Thats still bolt on LS1 territory
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^ Thank you lol
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Originally Posted by thunderstruck507
New owner took my brothers old car and went 11.8s on drag radials with a cai, tune, and axle back. 11.6s on slicks, CS so not the 3.73s. 115mph

A friend has one with the 3.73, Ford Racing warrantied tune, GT500 catback, spare tire removed. Stock tires with just a clean off spin, no burnout. It has gone 12.6@113. It was trapping 111-112 stock. What baffles me is the car seems unaffected by DA. It runs the same MPH whether its 50* or 80* and humid.
Guy here went 11.9@115 with same tune but had slicks in rear. . Did two passes like that and rest where in the 12.3-12.5 range before those passes.

Buddy just ran 12.7@112 in his bone stock auto. 3.15 gears in 3600 da. What funny is another Guy with him only could get a 12.9@108 out of his 427R roush with tune, Lilly, cams and drag radials
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Originally Posted by NiteRiderWS6
Thats still bolt on LS1 territory
Not where I live.
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Originally Posted by Mike Morris
Lot of nonsense in this thread.

I warned people on this board years ago 5.0s were no joke. I hang around,raced and driven many of them
However a full bolt on LS1 is not losing to a stock 5.0 or even one with a tune with good driving.
A tuned one taking out an average heads,cammed LS1....something is wrong with the driver or car

Ill run any bolt on n/a 5.0 at Cecil. It will be an *** kicking for them I promise.
of course you will look at your sig lol. a bolt on 5.0 vs a bolt on plus cam and stall camaro isnt a match. now if both cars had similar mods id go with the 5.0, given that they can run 11.8's with just x pipe and tune, imagine how that would go with x pipe, tune, intake, stall and cam. car would be a monster.

btw you mentioned cecil i assume your in jax? where at im on arglye. not trying to race fyi im still stock i just traded in my 2011 for a 2013 5.0 last month and the car is still bone stock until the backordered parts come in.
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Originally Posted by NiteRiderWS6
Thats still bolt on LS1 territory
I rarely see bolt on f bodies and surely not well driven ones at all so I'm not trying to argue or discredit that. Just posted personal experience.

For what it's worth my car with mods in sig and not completely lined out tune has ran a best so far of 7.54@92mph 1/8th and 11.92@111mph. It has managed to pull on the 5.0 anyways...I think my tire size or something is throwing off my 1/4 MPH speed.
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Originally Posted by usnfenix
of course you will look at your sig lol. a bolt on 5.0 vs a bolt on plus cam and stall camaro isnt a match. now if both cars had similar mods id go with the 5.0, given that they can run 11.8's with just x pipe and tune, imagine how that would go with x pipe, tune, intake, stall and cam. car would be a monster.

btw you mentioned cecil i assume your in jax? where at im on arglye. not trying to race fyi im still stock i just traded in my 2011 for a 2013 5.0 last month and the car is still bone stock until the backordered parts come in.
Yes a 5.0 with the same mods is faster. FYI I have heads now. I just can't believe some of the things posted in this thread....tuned cars taking out full bolt on LS1s,heads cam LS1 etc...

Cecil as in Cecil Country dragway.
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Originally Posted by Mike Morris
Lot of nonsense in this thread.

I warned people on this board years ago 5.0s were no joke. I hang around,raced and driven many of them
However a full bolt on LS1 is not losing to a stock 5.0 or even one with a tune with good driving.
A tuned one taking out an average heads,cammed LS1....something is wrong with the driver or car

Ill run any bolt on n/a 5.0 at Cecil. It will be an *** kicking for them I promise.
I agree. someone needs to learn how to drive
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Ive seen tuned 5.0s with exhaust and a cold air intake running 12.40's to 12.60 with a 112 to 113 trap speed. Some tracks run faster but not the one close to me
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Originally Posted by SalvageZ28
Ive seen tuned 5.0s with exhaust and a cold air intake running 12.40's to 12.60 with a 112 to 113 trap speed. Some tracks run faster but not the one close to me
those people need to learn to drive then. buddys 6 speed 2012 5.0 over here went 11.8 with a tune x pipe and radials. the driver mod seems to be the problem between everyones experiences with 5.0's
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cam and bolt on LS1's mostly run low 12s @ 111-113 full weight. Hate to bust you guys bubble but I've seen numerous of 5.0 running 11-6 -11.9s @ 114-117 with a tune, CAI, exhaust and drag radials. They are extremely fast when boosted as well.
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5.0s CAN be fast but there was one last week at the track running 13.5 @ 107 lol, and no, he wasn't a bad driver, he knew was up, also when I went to the track few months ago there was one with full exhaust, cutback, tb, boss intake tune and what not and was only running 12.9 @ 112 on like a 70 degree weather, homeboy just ran a 12.6 @ 112 with a 2.0 on 90degree weather so idk what's wrong with these almighty 5.0s but at RPR they are not as fast as ppl make them seem here, o wait I forgot, we in ls1tech and there is a lot of ford nuts wingers lol, I ran a 12,5@110 in a -33xDA with a 1.88 60ft .... And I only have straight pipe and tune, I am sure with a little weight reduction and some wheels around and atleast a 1.6 60ft I could get a real low low low 12 or maybe, maybe a very high 11
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Originally Posted by lablackbeast
5.0s CAN be fast but there was one last week at the track running 13.5 @ 107 lol, and no, he wasn't a bad driver, he knew was up, also when I went to the track few months ago there was one with full exhaust, cutback, tb, boss intake tune and what not and was only running 12.9 @ 112 on like a 70 degree weather, homeboy just ran a 12.6 @ 112 with a 2.0 on 90degree weather so idk what's wrong with these almighty 5.0s but at RPR they are not as fast as ppl make them seem here, o wait I forgot, we in ls1tech and there is a lot of ford nuts wingers lol, I ran a 12,5@110 in a -33xDA with a 1.88 60ft .... And I only have straight pipe and tune, I am sure with a little weight reduction and some wheels around and atleast a 1.6 60ft I could get a real low low low 12 or maybe, maybe a very high 11
That's like me saying that because all I've seen at my local track is H/C/I 4th Gens running 12's, therefore they all run 12's.
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Originally Posted by texada
cam and bolt on LS1's mostly run low 12s @ 111-113 full weight. Hate to bust you guys bubble but I've seen numerous of 5.0 running 11-6 -11.9s @ 114-117 with a tune, CAI, exhaust and drag radials. They are extremely fast when boosted as well.
Dude if you or anyone else can't get a bolt-on ls1 to run atleast 112 then you should just give up, save your money and go find another hobby......like maybe knitting would suit you better.

Baring something is wrong with the car a 6m car will do that easily. Free mods, airlid, poopy mac headers on the stock cat-back, udp and a driver mod is all you need. No dr's , no weight reduction, stock ls1 intake. Hell we got a T/a to go 110 with just free mods.

Granted the new 5.0's are faster,but one should expect them to be. It's 14 years later with a semi redesigned motor, but even better is it's gearing. The ability of the rear to take 6k dumps on a tire and the old f-body just can't et with it. Full bolt-on vs full bolt-on in a drag car and it seems to be really close though.
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Originally Posted by texada
cam and bolt on LS1's mostly run low 12s @ 111-113 full weight. Hate to bust you guys bubble but I've seen numerous of 5.0 running 11-6 -11.9s @ 114-117 with a tune, CAI, exhaust and drag radials. They are extremely fast when boosted as well.
Cool story bro.
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Originally Posted by texada
cam and bolt on LS1's mostly run low 12s @ 111-113 full weight. Hate to bust you guys bubble but I've seen numerous of 5.0 running 11-6 -11.9s @ 114-117 with a tune, CAI, exhaust and drag radials. They are extremely fast when boosted as well.
Never seen a Cam and Bolt on LS1 trap 111-113. Thats really low. I know guys who had the small TR224 and trapped 117+ and I have never seen a Tune, CAI, Exhaust, Drag radial 5.0 run 11.6 LMFAO yea right...
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Originally Posted by texada
cam and bolt on LS1's mostly run low 12s @ 111-113 full weight. Hate to bust you guys bubble but I've seen numerous of 5.0 running 11-6 -11.9s @ 114-117 with a tune, CAI, exhaust and drag radials. They are extremely fast when boosted as well.

Not around here they don't. 113 with a cam and bolt ons???? EWWWW thats terrible. I went 113MPH with bolt ons in an auto at crap track,full weight,stock wheels,all sway bars on and even the spare tire and jack in. Stick car would have went faster.

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Dude if you or anyone else can't get a bolt-on ls1 to run atleast 112 then you should just give up, save your money and go find another hobby......like maybe knitting would suit you better.

Baring something is wrong with the car a 6m car will do that easily. Free mods, airlid, poopy mac headers on the stock cat-back, udp and a driver mod is all you need. No dr's , no weight reduction, stock ls1 intake. Hell we got a T/a to go 110 with just free mods.

Granted the new 5.0's are faster,but one should expect them to be. It's 14 years later with a semi redesigned motor, but even better is it's gearing. The ability of the rear to take 6k dumps on a tire and the old f-body just can't et with it. Full bolt-on vs full bolt-on in a drag car and it seems to be really close though.
Agree. Though a full bolt on 5.0 vs a full bolt on LS F body is a big gap though for the LS.

Originally Posted by NiteRiderWS6
Never seen a Cam and Bolt on LS1 trap 111-113. Thats really low. I know guys who had the small TR224 and trapped 117+ and I have never seen a Tune, CAI, Exhaust, Drag radial 5.0 run 11.6 LMFAO yea right...
I have seen a full bolt on 5.0 run 11.6s at just about full weight-just skinnies,littles and no front sway bar only weight reduction.


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