Street Racing & Kill Stories Basic Technical Questions & Advice

DD 1st gen neon vs 5.0

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-13-2013, 08:21 AM
  #1  
11 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
speedshifterNC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 575
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default DD 1st gen neon vs 5.0

Players:

Chopper('11 5.0)-3400 stall
cai
exhaust
tune
4.10 gear
110lb passenger
street tires
raceweight approx 3900lbs

Baby Skittle(me: 95 neon 4dr)-stock 5spd trans
2.4 stratus block
2.0 head
stock srt4 turbo
240hp 220tq 13psi
200lb passenger/car full of nonperishable groceries
street tires
raceweight approx 2900lbs

foggy wet night but luckily the roads dry quick in mexico

first race was about the same with the 5.0 getn a lil better jump(no video)

2nd race I got a slight jump on the 3rd honk only to have him creep around me..we went from 45 to 110 or so. I brake boosted in 3rd hence the small jump, stayed pretty close thru 4th and as soon as he got by me I went to 5th and let out which is why it looks like he hit the gas(which he didnt)..chase car is a new v6 stang(not sure on mods).

Overall two good runs w a good friend and only got beat by about a car. The 5.0 is well known in this part of mexico mainly for dig races maybe we'll get some of them of video if I decide to run him in my H/C 98z28

cliff notes: mustang 5.0 2 wins neon 0 wins=fail but Ill take being beaten by a car length in my dd any day..fun race

1st video is chase view



2nd video is from neon view just after the honks

Old 01-13-2013, 09:18 AM
  #2  
Staging Lane
 
Knight-Z06's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: san antonio
Posts: 97
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

love the 2.4 block and 2.0 heads , good death
Old 01-13-2013, 09:25 AM
  #3  
11 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
speedshifterNC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 575
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

thnx..its on low boost for now..thinking about a snow kit and/or more fuel/boost..but it runs great as is..cant seem to get the mileage I was hoping for though..might help if I could keep my foot out of it
Old 01-13-2013, 09:25 AM
  #4  
ASSuming On The Tree
 
audacious nick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 195
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

What is the point of the rear race view?
Old 01-13-2013, 09:41 AM
  #5  
11 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
speedshifterNC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 575
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

just another angle..the race was closer than it looked..in both races he was still in gear pulling when I had to go to 5th(which slows down dramatically)..curse those high winding 5.0s..and now that I think about it..the v6 stang seemed to hang pretty good w a nice anticipating jump(again not sure on the mods)
Old 01-13-2013, 09:49 AM
  #6  
ASSuming On The Tree
 
audacious nick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 195
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by speedshifterNC
just another angle..the race was closer than it looked..in both races he was still in gear pulling when I had to go to 5th(which slows down dramatically)..curse those high winding 5.0s..and now that I think about it..the v6 stang seemed to hang pretty good w a nice anticipating jump(again not sure on the mods)
An angle where you can't see anything but some tail lights.
Old 01-13-2013, 11:11 AM
  #7  
TECH Resident
iTrader: (4)
 
odthetruth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: heading South East on Bakalakadaka street
Posts: 819
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Too much **** in your car to be honest. I knew you were losing by looking at the numbers and race weight. If you didn't have the 200lbs passenger and the x amount of groceries in there, you would have done better. Weight was your main ally, and you killed it with a heavy passenger. LOL Good deaths.
Old 01-13-2013, 11:30 AM
  #8  
Staging Lane
 
Knight-Z06's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: san antonio
Posts: 97
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by audacious nick
An angle where you can't see anything but some tail lights.
do you ever have anything positive to say ?

why dont you try being cool
Old 01-13-2013, 12:17 PM
  #9  
ASSuming On The Tree
 
audacious nick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 195
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Knight-Z06
do you ever have anything positive to say ?

why dont you try being cool
Z06s are cool.
But seriously, the rear view is useless. I don't even understand it.
Old 01-13-2013, 12:35 PM
  #10  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (6)
 
marc97taws6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: DSM
Posts: 1,433
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Is that the same 2.4 block that would have been in my old DD 2.4 3G Eclipse?

I've heard a few guys will run that block with different heads for boost applications
Old 01-13-2013, 05:12 PM
  #11  
11 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
speedshifterNC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 575
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

mine was a stratus block..Ive heard they were similar but idk..Im sure someone else will chime in

nick I wanted to make sure my muffler belt didnt fly off..theres another great reason..seriously who gives a f*ck?! its another angle big deal
Old 01-13-2013, 06:07 PM
  #12  
On The Tree
 
Heater's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Wilmywood NC
Posts: 149
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Good death!

Sounds like you've got a nasty combo for a DD.
Old 01-14-2013, 05:45 PM
  #13  
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (11)
 
enginjoe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 679
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Nice little sleeper. I like it.

There was a stratus block that was the same as the 3g eclipse and 8g galants. It was in the stratus coupe. I think it's easier to use the dodge 2.4 though due to mounting, accessories and everything else, so I would guess that is it.
Old 01-15-2013, 12:37 AM
  #14  
11 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
speedshifterNC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 575
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

thnx guys..its all blacked out and u cant see the intercooler unless u are looking hard for it..its nice to roll up on unsuspecting victims..sadly a 2010 ss was one of them smh
Old 01-15-2013, 12:50 AM
  #15  
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (1)
 
Theblacknightls1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: San Antonio ,TX
Posts: 559
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Good runs! Seems like a good setup but you need e85 !
Old 01-15-2013, 07:05 AM
  #16  
Teching In
 
Tracked350Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 0
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Why do I know this stuff. ::facepalm:: I'm literally typing this with my head down. The accessories on the eclipse are different. i.e the alternator bracket setup is different. However, it's swappable. It's easier to use the 2.4 from the stratus/pt cruiser since it's a direct swap. Most people use the heads off the 2.4 since its basically the same but use the 2.0 DOHC cams. The 2.0 cams or some lightly modified crane cams like 14's, 16's, or 18's are perfect for the turbo applications. I wanted to run 24's for some of my old builds but never finished any of them. There were 9 total.
Old 01-15-2013, 07:54 AM
  #17  
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (11)
 
enginjoe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 679
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Originally Posted by Theblacknightls1
Good runs! Seems like a good setup but you need e85 !
^^This. You will easily be able to make 300whp and around 400wtq on that stock turbo setup. You need to be able to support a good amount of fuel though and a way to tune.
Old 01-15-2013, 10:51 AM
  #18  
11 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
speedshifterNC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 575
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Im using megasquirt and more power is def on the way..u have to love these cars bc they're so dirt cheap to find used, nobody likes them, they're lightweight, and not another civic w vtachs
Old 01-17-2013, 10:11 PM
  #19  
11 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
speedshifterNC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 575
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Too much **** in your car to be honest. I knew you were losing by looking at the numbers and race weight. If you didn't have the 200lbs passenger and the x amount of groceries in there, you would have done better. Weight was your main ally, and you killed it with a heavy passenger. LOL Good deaths.
yea I wasnt worried about the weight..this is really the first street race in the car since I played camera car to a boss/evo race about a year ago..I just wanted to see where I was at. I even called the outcome..but my friend in the 5.0 was pretty surprised how well I kept up
Old 01-23-2013, 08:57 PM
  #20  
11 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
speedshifterNC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 575
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

a friend pointed out another reason the chase view was worthy of posting..the view from the neon was just after the start of the race..the chase view catches the whole race and u see how close it is



Quick Reply: DD 1st gen neon vs 5.0



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:00 PM.