CyberGrey Z28

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Oh so you bought a 5.0 so that people could look at you...tell us how you really feel

Yes I get really mad when stock Hondas beat me, but I know that the solution to my problem is to buy a 5.0 so that people WILL look at me.

^^^What an idiot. No one is even going to look at him!!!


Wait....is that the same car that keeps getting featured in magazines and has thousands of followers/youtube subscriptions?

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I'm going to attribute that to the fact that Ohio's big head is exponentially more dense than the average 5.0 owner. He's working with Automach so that he could the same custom sunroof installed.

evangto87

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You just strengthened the point i was trying to make. My point was that the car was fast... and followed the 500whp build to a T (Pat G knows what hes doing when it comes to building a fast LS car, but his dyno is...well... yea). Money was not an issue. His car made 453whp on the same dynojet that cammed ls2 made 425whp and i made 418whp.

My point is dont believe everything you read on the internet... especially when havent done it or tried to do it (thats not meant to be an insult or a dig... just a point). There is a local dynopack dyno to me that almost every car makes atleast 50whp more on.

Johnnystock

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Those guys are sponsor of the gto forum and YOU can garantee its not making the power? It seems you know more than those guys then..props to you.

Its a shock heh? All those nice dyno results? Thats what LSx engines are doing since a long time. Didnt you say you were modding LSx before(GTO I guess).

So now youre saying that all those results were on generous dyno? And the OP is the only legit one at 471rwhp? Cool.

But yeah all the Ford dynos were legit and very stingy? Of course!!!

You think I'm stupid? I aint gonna waste the 2mins to take the stupid calculated guess. Many auto fbody dynoed around 450rwhp and ran 10s@13xmph. All dynos are different. But yes it is possible to get nice numbers out a cam only 500rwhp LS2-3. Vids/thread are there. You dont wanna believe it, thats fine. Why are you even talking about it then?

adamantium

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Exactly. I agree 100%. Everything you read and or hear about on the internet should be taken with a grain of salt. Ive had a guy get his car tuned by a certain tuner, the tuner shares the results and we were all stunned by the power it put out and later found out the car had a ported head, obvously the tuner never edited the thread though. Stuff like this DOES happen.

IMO, track results>*

125mph traps out of a 3500lb H/C LS1 is STRONG no matter wtf the dyno numbers say.

Ohio are there any track results from those H/C 5xxwhp coyotes you shared?

evangto87

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You are getting way too heated for no reason. I dont care who sponsors what about anything. Im sure that car made 480whp on THAT dyno. But i guarentee it wouldnt on the same dyno the other one made 425whp. THATS my point.

And i will make the same power that H/C car made on that very same dyno with my stock roadrunner motor. Now what can i make with a H/C package on top of it. Get it?

Johnnystock

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LOL the money BS wasnt even directed at you but at five0three, but I guess you guys are the same since you took it so personal hahaha

You sure really did need to explain your budget too, nobody cares, since you would never buy anything else than a 5.0...no need to make us believe you would buy a Vette..yeah right!! Your best lie in this thread!!

Look for a member named chr1313. His LS6(or LS1 not sure) is making around 522rwhp. Yep, LS1 territory.

evangto87

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Ive only seen the JPC cars go down the track... so take his times also with a grain of salt as hes not a forum guy. He builds cars to go fast and thats it. His 550whp car went 9.9 at 137 with a 30XX race weight.

adamantium

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Ridiculously fast. Def does back it up on the track, 137 MPH is ******* **** up.

I wonder what the kaltech H/C LS1 weighed, i saw a vid of it going like 11.0 at like 130 with a slipping clutch, and the car made low 5's.

Johnnystock

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So what would the 522rwhp 5.0 would dyno on your dyno?? IT DID WHAT IT DID, like your car, my car or any. You know what happened on your dyno day? You dynoed on a real world dyno. Not on an internet over hyped one.

Its funny, I guarantee your roadrunner would not dyno the same. Why? no reason, I just like to speculate like you. You dont know anything about their dyno or the car that dyno.

What about the OPs dyno at 471rwhp?

What about all the other???? Not legit??

ohioborn80

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Pat g tuned my G8. Cold air, full exhaust with cats, cold air, udp pulley made 385whp. Stock TB, stock Intake manifold.

ohioborn80

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Jpc post on svt, modularfords, and s197. Not a lot but they do.

Johnnystock

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Heres another one for you


It did dyno over 500rwhp, stock casting, 1 3/4 exhaust, FAST 90mm

I honestly didnt know some plp on this forum didnt believe some ls1 made 500rwhp. Thats sad.

ohioborn80

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You totally missed the point...

Detoxx03

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Man your friend is a idiot. His first mistake was putting that garbage as maggie on it. That thing doesn't make power for **** and then it produces too much heat like all pd blowers do. If he would have thrown a Procharger (still won't cure the cars weight issue) on it he wouldn't have had that issue. I'm making 676 on the stock bottom end with just upgraded injectors and a bap and my car runs perfectly fine. I can throw a smaller pulley on it if I want to but i'm not trying to push it too much cause I plan on building it and going for 1000rwhp. Plus at 3200 pounds not much can beat it around here.

All of the dumbasses on Camaro5

Johnnystock

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A LS2 in the 9s

1/4 - 9.87
60 - 1.30
MPH - 134.8
3000lbs with me in it
Moser 12 bolt 4.11 spool
Trans - Performabuilt level 3 4L60E / Circle D 5K rpm stall converter (230mm non lockup)
No power adders
455 RWHP SAE corrected engine and mods in sig!
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evangto87

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I dont know what any of them would make. Dude chill out! Ok let me break this down for you again. My friend built an SS camaro following Pat Gs 500whp guidelines (which is CONSTANTLY brought up in hp arguements proving ls1s can make 500whp). His car was the fastest H/C f body i have ever seen in person and it was full vehicle weight. His car trapped 125 in the dead heat of summer... he only went up once with it and thats what it ran. Never learned how to drive it better, or run it in low DA. Still managed a 125mph trap speed. It was fast...period. His car dynoed 455whp on the same exact dyno jet/shop every single car i ever reference for hp has. That same full bolt on cammed ls2 GTO made 425whp on that exact dyno. My boss made 418whp on that dyno with stock cats/shorties. I will be redynoing the car in a few weeks. The only changes ive made that will effect whp is dropping 20lbs off the driveshaft and adding kooks longtubes and offroad x pipe (i expect a 25whp gain from the headers/xpipe). My guess for my next dyno visit is between 440-450whp. A friend of mine already made 447whp on that dyno with high flow cats, stock resonators, and flowmasters. Theres no question i have a better flowing exhaust...whether it makes a difference...who knows. Now if i make within 10whp of that 455whp SS which again was just as fast and a carbon copy of Pat Gs car (the only difference was it wasnt the same dyno), and then i pick up 50whp from H/C package of my own..... isnt it safe to say the H/C 5.0 makes more power then the H/C ls1? Hell with bolt ons, my car will actually make more power then 95 percent of the H/C ls1s to ever get on that dyno. Im not trying to be a dick or gloat. Im just telling you real world comparisons. Not fighting youtube videos with youtube videos. I have never ever seen a H/C ls1 or ls2 in person make 500whp. Maybe on other dynos in the world.. but not the ones i have experience with.

In the long and short of it.... this is just dyno numbers and they dont matter anyway because dyno numbers dont make cars fast.

And not to sound like a dick again... but if 500whp is so doable... why do neither of your H/C setups make that?

And the OPs 471whp is great power...but again... its not 500whp.

ohioborn80

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3250lbs with driver..and he's 140lbs. So 400lbs of weight reduction, super small driver, 4.56 gears and drove 100 miles roush.d trip like it raced.

evangto87

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Go back and read my original post... i said they CAN make 500whp... its just not by any means easy and takes a vast knowledge of how to do it. THAT car makes 500whp... why? Because it traps over 130mph at 3250 race weight. I know all about that car. The Pat G 500whp ls1... doesnt make 500whp... unless on a happy dyno.


"It definitely makes 509 RWHP. It wasn't easy." - Owner of the car

ohioborn80

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He thought about swapping.g to.procharger. then changed his mind. He says maybe later down the road.

ohioborn80

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Op of video.said 3250 with driver.