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As an automaker, when you ignite reactions of ecstatic cheers during an auto show reveal, you know you’ve done something right. In the case of Chevy at the New York auto show, they took it a few steps further. The crowd on hand, those on social media, and enthusiasts everywhere erupted in rejoice as General Motors sneakily unveiled the 2014 Camaro Z/28. The most iconic model in Camaro history returns.

First introduced in 1967, the original Z/28 featured no automatic transmission or air conditioning. It was a track-ready machine and it held those attributes to heart. Unlike the ’67 Z/28, the 2014 version does not intend to compete in a specific race series, but it still holds true to the original’s core beliefs.

On-track, the 2014 Z/28 promises to be exceptional; lapping three seconds faster per lap than the incredibly proficient Camaro ZL1. Sticking with the numerical three, this speed increase derives from three key areas: chassis modifications improve cornering g to 1.05; carbon-ceramic Brembo brakes offer additional stopping power, and a 300-lb weight reduction over the ZL1 drastically improves handling. The weight shedding stems from lightweight wheels all the way to thinner rear-window glass. Even air conditioning is an option. Naturally, as with the Z/28 of old, a 6-speed manual transmission is all you get, and frankly, we wouldn’t have it any other way.

From a design standpoint, the refreshed Camaro, with its narrow grill, squared off back fenders and boxy rear end, adds to the cartoonish appearance customers are accustomed .To me, the revamped Camaro looks too gimmicky, but those modifications – mixed with additional aggression – work wonders on the Z/28. From being underwhelmed with the base 2014 Camaro, I became one of the many desperately thrashing for my phone to steal the first Flickr pic.

The powerplant utilized on the Z/28 marks the motor first introduced on the Corvette Z06. The 7.0-liter V-8 produces at least 500 hp and 470 lb. ft. of torque – an 80-hp decrease over the 6.2-liter ZL1. What matters, however, is that the Z/28’s engine offers a significant weight reduction, making the slight horsepower deficit immaterial.

The interior will feel familiar for Camaro lovers, with subtle aspects trimmed to save mass. The tiny rear seats remain, but eliminate the seat-back pass through as well as using high-density foam in place of rigid structural elements. All but one speaker has been removed in the quest for reducing the pound figure; one remains purely so as the seat belt warning signal can sound if you forget to buckle up.

“Our goal,” said Al Oppenheiser, Camaro chief engineer, “was to make the fastest road-racing Camaro possible that was still street legal. The Z/28 will be too track-focused for most drivers, but offers road-racers one of the most capable track cars ever offered from an automaker.”

That’s a bold statement, but having spent hours hustling the incredibly capable ZL1 on track, I’m not going to pass judgment just yet. With improved lap-times of around three seconds, that statement might be on the money. We don’t yet know prices or speed statistics, but what we do know marks the 2014 Chevy Camaro Z/28 as the best, and most surprising, machine at the New York Auto Show. I’m sure the Ford stand gasped even louder than we did.
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and I beat a boss 302 with my minor bolt on t\a


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oh **** the z28 is back!!!!!!!!!!!!!


and nice kill !
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Z28 RULES!!!!

Good kill!
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Z28 RULES!!!!

Good kill!
hell yea , head and cam that bad boy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Knight-Z06
hell yea , head and cam that bad boy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NAAHH ....from what I see around here most can't get bolt-ons to run right. That car will be a animal out of the box.....a little messageing here and there and look out.
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3 seconds faster on the track over the ZL1...
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a 500+ hp n\a camaro!!!!! is ford going to counter with a mach 1? the boss 302 won't even be in the same zip code.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
NAAHH ....from what I see around here most can't get bolt-ons to run right. That car will be a animal out of the box.....a little messageing here and there and look out.


LS7's respond very well to mods. Heads/Cam Z28's will be nasty!
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LS7's respond very well to mods. Heads/Cam Z28's will be nasty!
Think what you want bud....there is a whole pile of h/c ls7's Z06's that's not as fast as the record car is. No use in h/c until what you have is optimized/driven properly.
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what?
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Think what you want bud....there is a whole pile of h/c ls7's Z06's that's not as fast as the record car is. No use in h/c until what you have is optimized/driven properly.


Go sell that BS to someone who'll buy it man.
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Go sell that BS to someone who'll buy it man.
It happens all the time. Guy I know recently bought a cammed auto gutted Camaro. That car is slower than my other buddies semi bolt-on car. Not to mention the the h/c cars I walked over the years. I'm not saying everyone should/would/could have or want a record car. But the basics should be well covered before you move on. Unless you just like talking about your mods....then have at it.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
It happens all the time. Guy I know recently bought a cammed auto gutted Camaro. That car is slower than my other buddies semi bolt-on car. Not to mention the the h/c cars I walked over the years. I'm not saying everyone should/would/could have or want a record car. But the basics should be well covered before you move on. Unless you just like talking about your mods....then have at it.
I see that **** alot on here, people installing a cam because it sounds cool, or leaving dummy exhaust tips while they have dumps because tips look cool. Really gay its really common here too, slopped up setups that barely out run proper bolt on setups.
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geez you guys... a 500+ hp n\a camaro!!
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Its great they stuck a ls7 in the camaro. But no AC or stereo will be a hard pill to swallow for people. AC is an option as a stand alone system. But why lighten back seats and keep with base model gets no AC stereo. That's just stupid.
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you ford guys upped the game with the 5.0 and new gt500's so we are fighting back with what we have , all out no mercy .......sweating ***** on a hot day .......who gives a **** I got an ls7 in a Camaro
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Originally Posted by Knight-Z06
you ford guys upped the game with the 5.0 and new gt500's so we are fighting back with what we have , all out no mercy .......sweating ***** on a hot day .......who gives a **** I got an ls7 in a Camaro
GM said it is a total track car but could drag race. Faster then the ZL1. Seen rumors of 45-55k for price. I rather start with a 1LE.
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would you say that if they offered a 5.0 model with the 500rwhp N/A version
of the cobra jet engine which they then badged Mach 1, for 55 grand
which would be badass btw
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Originally Posted by adamantium
I see that **** alot on here, people installing a cam because it sounds cool, or leaving dummy exhaust tips while they have dumps because tips look cool. Really gay its really common here too, slopped up setups that barely out run proper bolt on setups.
Who does that? People install cams to make more power, the sound is just an added plus. And I had dummy Corsa clones on my cam only F-body because I think the T/A's don't look right without tips because of the bumper design.
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i would say ford will be furiously working on a mach 1 now--- n\a 5.8L


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