roger

A stock auto mach runs between 13.30's to 13.60's if its anywhere close to sealevel.

an m6 car like yours should beat him with a couple mods barring you dont spin and get a good launch.

after you beat him go find a nice 5 speed car to race!!

1gen

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mayyyyyyn that's wiggety wiggety whack brah

98blackZ28

ok, so today as I was leaving school the kid with the mach 1 comes up and starts chatting about my car, which is cool. And then we start to leave and I pull out in front of him as were leaving the parking lot and we pull onto a street and there was no one in front of me and I smoked my tires right in front of him thinking he was gonna go, so I did the burn out in front of him and took off to about 50-60mph and he again just like last time didn't even try. So now I guess he is not so cocky anymore and he's probably not even gonna try and race me.

99-LS1-SS

What a wuss. I will race anyone. I don't give a **** if I lose. You never know until you do it. Maybe he read this post and got scared.

98blackZ28

hahhahahah

maybe he did, lol

MillaTK

Haha, oh well, sorry to hear he won't run ya... Maybe you intimidated him with your burn out.

Dal1as

Stock auto Mach's run about a 14 flat. Manuals run mid 13's with a good driver. No way in hell an auto Mach runs low 13's. Hah!

mach1killer

i think mm&ff got 13.5@102mph out of a automatic mach 1 with dr's only. they would dyno low, like 250-260rwhp and 260-270rwtq.
and dal1as, there are ways in hell an automatic mach would run 11's. , i can show a video of one. the car is not stock of course, but hey, i think a supercharge is just a bolt-on on our cars , j/k,

roger

mach1killer....be easy on dallas....hes got a pretty low i.q.

auto machs run mid thirteens no matter what you think.

also stick machs run mid thirteens with a bad driver.

MillaTK

WEll, Im sure there are autos that run high 13's and even low 14s, just like there are LS1's running 14's, but, that depends on drivers and conditions and what not...

Roger, remember though, not everyone can be as good a driver as you... mr LOW LOW 13 second bone stock Mach 1(even paper filter). what did you end up getting with tires? 12.9? or did you get like a 12.6?

Skarecrow

yeah you can't take good drivers and particularly good (freak?) engines as representitive of the entire breed. maybe it's possible, and not even uncommon, for a stock mach 1 to run low low 13s... but the majority of owners probably arn't going to do it. the majority of mach 1 owners are probably running mid-high 13s, or even low 14s. my ls1 ran a 13.7 last time i was at the track, and for a stock ls1, that's middle-of-the-road at best. i'm not a great driver, nor am i horrible. I think a better driver could get a 13.4 out of my car, while someone worse could easily run 14s in it. even so i'm not even close to the 12.9s (i believe) some magazine got out of a stock SS a few years ago.

not everybody, and in fact not most people, have the freak engines like venkman or something like that... nor do most people have whatever skill set it takes to wrangle those last 2 or 3 tenths out of a car that mere mortals can't get.

my point... is that it's interesting to know what a car is capible of, but far more useful to know what it's actually likely to do.

roger

yeah i see what you guys are saying but honestly i am not a very good driver.there are about 4 other machs in my area that all run faster than me stock.and on the auto comment there are two guys that i know that went 13.6 and the other went 13.4 with stock automatic cars.

i think i could get better times out of mine with some practice but i just havent been out to the track lately,to many other things going on.

Joegt38

They can do better then that, Ive seen and have a buddy w/ a stock 02 auto GT that ran 14.1 3 different times. Believe it or not but I saw it with my own eyes. The best I saw a stock 5spd Mach run was a 13.3 tho.

Dal1as

I said stock, not with DR's or any other mod. A Mach1 auto runs high 13's to 14 flat. A stick runs low to mid 13's.

MillaTK

Read Roger's post above... Auto Mach1's can be gotten to go quicker...

Dal1as

I'm talking averages people. Not the best or the worst.

2003 Mach1 Auto ='s high 13's, 14.0
2003 Mach1 Stick ='s low to mid 13's

Most F-body sticks run low 13's, stock auto's I'm not sure.

Oh and DR's do not come stock.

As for the low IQ comment. (shrug) Should that bother me considering the source? No, it doesn't. People need to get real. I've seen so much false info put out by Mach1 owners it's unreal. 250 pounds lighter? Try about 40. Pulling on a car with 30 or 60 hp more than you? Um, no. A race from a dig may be up to the drivers, but to pull on someone requires better gearing, horsepower, and to some extent weight and aerodynamics.

Dal1as

Yes, I know that but I'm talking averages. For every good driver who broke his stock LS-1 into the 12's there are 30 or 40 run low to mid 13's (close to sea level)

Hell we've had a few people here in MD run 12.7 to 12.9 in a stock LS-1 on stock tires. That's not cause to say the LS-1 is a 12 second car. On average it is not.

MillaTK

Yes, I understand that, and I even mentioned that earlier... but, you said it as if that is a set in stone number... Thats all...

roger

Ive seen claims on both sides of high 12 second passes,and from reliable peaple but i havent seen it with my own eyes.does that mean it hasent happened?NO!!

just because you havent seen a auto mach run 13.30's or so doesnt mean they are not out there.

Dal1as

My bad, I never meant that the numbers were set. Hell, most people after they learn there car can take up to half a second off of there times Car and Driver and such usually state. Professional driver or not, most of those guys don't push the car to the limit and don't know the car.

My whole point is that the stock LS-1's average better than stock Mach1's in the quarter, have more horsepower, and almost weigh the same. From a dig on the street it's pretty much a drivers race but from a roll (stock) a Mach 1 is not going to pull on an LS-1. Especially one with LT's, exhaust, and some other bolt ons like Roger or whoever said.