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2002 Camaro SS vs 1998 Mustang GT

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My 97 gt vert had BBK tb/plenum, bbk cai, Typhoon PI intake, Mac mufflers. It went 9.5's in the 8th.

My 12 v6, bone stock, same track, went 8.86...

Made me even more aware of how slow my gt was, lol...... It was brutal. But it looked damn good and sounded great. Counted for something I guess....
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Originally Posted by Fooln Ya
My 97 gt vert had BBK tb/plenum, bbk cai, Typhoon PI intake, Mac mufflers. It went 9.5's in the 8th.

My 12 v6, bone stock, same track, went 8.86...

Made me even more aware of how slow my gt was, lol...... It was brutal. But it looked damn good and sounded great. Counted for something I guess....
You and your dad's cars definitely do work man. Technology is fantastic, isn't it?
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Originally Posted by Fooln Ya
My 97 gt vert had BBK tb/plenum, bbk cai, Typhoon PI intake, Mac mufflers. It went 9.5's in the 8th.

My 12 v6, bone stock, same track, went 8.86...

Made me even more aware of how slow my gt was, lol...... It was brutal. But it looked damn good and sounded great. Counted for something I guess....
My '98 GT did 9.3x with a misfire. Are you at a high DA?
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
My '98 GT did 9.3x with a misfire. Are you at a high DA?
My bone stock 96 Vert did 15.8@87 at ennis with track temps at 115*F+. They were god awful slow.
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My 9.3 was at Kennedale, also in the middle of the summer. They're slow, but they aren't as bad as some make them out to be. A few choice mods and they are even borderline respectable.

Edit: The 9.3 was with a catback exhaust and a K&N filter, not stock.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
A stock/stock-ish F-body would have its hands full with a ~290-300rwhp 4.10-geared 3,100lb Mustang, especially since they definitely wouldn't be expecting to have to give it their all. It wouldn't burn any barns, but it would be very cheap and fun to play around with.
So now you want weight reduction thrown in too??? To run with a stock f-body???? You have made my point for me.
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It's not going to run like an LS6 (not a cheap shot) or a coyote, but at $2500 for a complete swap, 300+ to the tire and an 80lb weight loss will make one hell of a difference, don't ya think?
I still think a hell of alot of effort to get spanked by mild bolt-on f-bodys.
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Here you go Hio, not that you give a rat's *** haha, but here's something to chew on.

http://www.modularmisfits.com/forums...ead.php?t=2020

Not too shabby, eh?
Not bad.......I'm not saying that builds like the one you posted can't be cool or fun........but that thing is gonna get it's *** wore out by a full bolt-on car. For christ sakes he was beating on it hard enough to pull the tire to run a low 12 @112 on a slick........should tell you something.
Originally Posted by Fooln Ya
My 97 gt vert had BBK tb/plenum, bbk cai, Typhoon PI intake, Mac mufflers. It went 9.5's in the 8th.

My 12 v6, bone stock, same track, went 8.86...

Made me even more aware of how slow my gt was, lol...... It was brutal. But it looked damn good and sounded great. Counted for something I guess....
They were turds.....lol Any plans for the v6 car?
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My bone stock 96 Vert did 15.8@87 at ennis with track temps at 115*F+. They were god awful slow.
My ecsb 2500hd 4x4 with a 6.0 ran a 16.1@86........on 33" tires. Put stock tires on it and your 2v woulda looked at a pick up truck tailgate.......troof
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all of your 2v's are belong to us!
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver

I have a 5.0 swapped new edge at my shop now. That's the only n/a engine ford made worth swapping.
Out of nowhere to talk **** on Ford, what's new.

Don't you have some hole saw bits to buy? Or a phone book to see over your steering wheel?
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For real........all I did was state the obvious.
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Originally Posted by big hammer
don't be gay, s95.
I mean c'mon why did he have to find a way to be condescending?
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For the investment, I feel it'll be my best option. Hell, I'll still be spending 1k less than a damn trick flow top end would cost for my high mileage, iron block 2v. I'll pass, give me a 3v with a decent pair of cams and bolt ons and I'll open some eyes It won't trap 130, but then...not many daily driven street cars do.
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Your best option would be to put a ls in it.

That guy got it to run a 11.7 @ 115 according to some research........but that's at a 2990 raceweight. For comparison Notch's mild bolt-on ls1 Camaro went 11.@116 with only about 200lb (3400lb raceweight)of weight reduction and no headers, no tune, no ewp, no fast intake(ls6 intake).......not to mention leaving on a 10bolt which leaves alot to be desired as far as et goes.

If that car would've been finished off your cammed 3v might have ran with it at comparable weights......but that is a big might.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Your best option would be to put a ls in it.

That guy got it to run a 11.7 @ 115 according to some research........but that's at a 2990 raceweight. For comparison Notch's mild bolt-on ls1 Camaro went 11.@116 with only about 200lb (3400lb raceweight)of weight reduction and no headers, no tune, no ewp, no fast intake(ls6 intake).......not to mention leaving on a 10bolt which leaves alot to be desired as far as et goes.

If that car would've been finished off your cammed 3v might have ran with it at comparable weights......but that is a big might.
...which is pretty respectable for an N/A ford, right?
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You've got to think, he is a head and cam package away from 10s. On a stock 281" sub 10.1 compression short block, that's pretty respectable. Even YOU can admit that.
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Originally Posted by Gt4urass
You've got to think, he is a head and cam package away from 10s. On a stock 281" sub 10.1 compression short block, that's pretty respectable. Even YOU can admit that.
Lol you're highly overestimating his ability to give anything with a Blue Oval credit.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
My 9.3 was at Kennedale, also in the middle of the summer. They're slow, but they aren't as bad as some make them out to be. A few choice mods and they are even borderline respectable.

Edit: The 9.3 was with a catback exhaust and a K&N filter, not stock.
Yeah, mine was over 150K miles and still had the stock exhaust on it.

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My ecsb 2500hd 4x4 with a 6.0 ran a 16.1@86........on 33" tires. Put stock tires on it and your 2v woulda looked at a pick up truck tailgate.......troof
Hell man, my 1970 cougar with a 351c 2V, a bad accelerator pump, and horrid tires went 16.3@85. That particular NPI was bad.
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Originally Posted by snake95
Lol you're highly overestimating his ability to give anything with a Blue Oval credit.
I believe he has potential! Haha! I think as long as I'm not trying to convince him that it would be "better" or "faster" than an equally modded LS, he'll put his guns down. It wouldn't run like a head and cammed LS1 swap, true. It would however, run very respectably. Fact is, when discussing a "street" setup, regardless of the number of cams or valves, a larger capacity motor will ALWAYS make more HP/TQ within a "streetable", "usable" rpm range. Optimum platform potentials mean dick when the discussion is about DD, easily livable street machines. That said, a cammed, mid-300 rwhp, 3200lb street car of any make will be a blast!
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Originally Posted by Gt4urass
You and your dad's cars definitely do work man. Technology is fantastic, isn't it?
Thank you sir. Where else might I know ya from?

Originally Posted by Irunelevens
My '98 GT did 9.3x with a misfire. Are you at a high DA?
Nah, it was probably 1000-1200da that night. The verts are heavier, and that was the first and only night down the track in that car, and the first passes ever down the track in general. 2.3-2.4 60's lol. It was also a 2.73 car. I have a slew of excuses, but it was just slow

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They were turds.....lol Any plans for the v6 car?
Just wanna finish the 'boltons', ie driveshaft, clutch, flywheel. Then see which way I want to go with boost. That's way down the road though. Right now I'm trying to clip 12.5s and 110mph n/a.

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