C5 Z06 vs H/c LS2 GTO
01-30-2014, 11:49 AM
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That's cool. I went with 1.72s on my 95 and people told me I would get piston to valve clearance problems, and when I told them that the piston is waaaaaaaaay far away when the valve is at max lift, their heads almost exploded...but they read it on some horseshit forum and heard from Joe Blow that it's true...that's interesting about stockers running 1.8s, wasn't aware.
Experimenting on stuff is the funnest part, if you ask me. When I ported my upper intake, sure I had never done it before and was nervous as ****, but when it was done and you could visually see the difference in how much air can flow through, that's the cool part. Same with wiring my 86...I hate wiring and have never wired every part of a car, but I learned a **** ton doing it and it's something that only cost me labor, not my paycheck!
I disagree a little on the D/A point, only because let's say I had very similar burnouts/launches and runs but one was in 0 DA and the other in 3000 DA. When going WOT for 95% of the track, the lower DA will allow the denser air to give me better results. Sure, when getting all technical the added power from lower DA may make me break my tires loose on the launch and thus ******* up the entire thing, but on a solid launch you'd still see a benefit.
Experimenting on stuff is the funnest part, if you ask me. When I ported my upper intake, sure I had never done it before and was nervous as ****, but when it was done and you could visually see the difference in how much air can flow through, that's the cool part. Same with wiring my 86...I hate wiring and have never wired every part of a car, but I learned a **** ton doing it and it's something that only cost me labor, not my paycheck!
I disagree a little on the D/A point, only because let's say I had very similar burnouts/launches and runs but one was in 0 DA and the other in 3000 DA. When going WOT for 95% of the track, the lower DA will allow the denser air to give me better results. Sure, when getting all technical the added power from lower DA may make me break my tires loose on the launch and thus ******* up the entire thing, but on a solid launch you'd still see a benefit.
01-30-2014, 12:00 PM
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I agree if the launch is solid d/a will make a difference. But it don't take much to knock the difference in half and just about negate it.
I love experimenting. That's how my car got to where it is. That's also why I like n/a stuff better. You have to work harder than upping boost.
I love experimenting. That's how my car got to where it is. That's also why I like n/a stuff better. You have to work harder than upping boost.
01-30-2014, 02:36 PM
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Not really. N/a you're scratching for every .5 hp. Boost your looking to gain much more power and you can tune it up to the point that race gas or e85 can be utilized. Those gains can easily triple what you find on a n/a engine.
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01-30-2014, 08:07 PM
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Wrong. I will probably change my setup eventually to gain just 5-15whp on pump. There is also more to it then just power.
01-30-2014, 08:38 PM
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I think he's been running it a while, sweet99. It seems he knows his car pretty well. Where did you read the don't run 1.8 rockers thing? Kind of sounds like the guys on Mustang forums that say too big of a TB kills torque 
Do you know guys who have broken their springs with the stock cam?
On another note, have you not ever taken a look at his sig and decided to ask questions before now? Haven't you noticed the band of cheerleaders always batting for his team? His car gets discussed quite a bit, usually because he tells people they should be trapping 130+ with a bolt-on golf cart.
Do you know guys who have broken their springs with the stock cam?On another note, have you not ever taken a look at his sig and decided to ask questions before now? Haven't you noticed the band of cheerleaders always batting for his team? His car gets discussed quite a bit, usually because he tells people they should be trapping 130+ with a bolt-on golf cart.
01-30-2014, 08:59 PM
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It's just common sense you can't run 1.8's on stock springs. You're pushing the springs farther and it's very common for 02-04 ls6 engines to break springs in stock form... That was the biggest cam GM had ever put in a production corvette I believe and they springs didn't cut it. And no I don't pay that much attention to him. Not trying to start a pissing match, but I don't take him that seriously. I don't believe the times were done with stock internals and he can claim w/e he wants. Cars aren't just magically that fast IMO. AND aftermarket springs are NOT bolt-ons lol. He didn't mention that before.... Are the heads ported too? Where do these "bolt-ons" end?
Basically you don't believe because you don't know how it's done. Let me phrase this another way. Because you don't know wtf you're doin then no one else can do better.......yea that about sums it up......lol
01-30-2014, 09:13 PM
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01-30-2014, 09:32 PM
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You proved your worth in the n/a world.....lol
My car is stock c5z weight. Do you know what it weighs? Have you had it on scales? Do you know what c5z's weight?
Do you actually know anything at all????????????????
My car is stock c5z weight. Do you know what it weighs? Have you had it on scales? Do you know what c5z's weight?
Do you actually know anything at all????????????????
01-30-2014, 10:07 PM
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Yup I sure did since my old n/a setups caused copious amounts of butthurt. You have claimed 29xx in the past derp.
01-30-2014, 10:59 PM
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Your n/a **** never caused any butt hurt. Hell your gt100 causes no butt hurt. Everyone knows you're a joke.
01-31-2014, 05:17 AM
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What ever dude......you've already shown you don't know wtf you're talking about.
LOL......cool man. I'm ok with you not believing it. The funny part is I'm not the fastest ls6. So I guess you don't believe that guy either. There is also another that out et'd me but I out mph'd him. BTW I went over 130 on the stock springs. I just did the 1.8's just to see if there was any power left in it with the stock cam.
Basically you don't believe because you don't know how it's done. Let me phrase this another way. Because you don't know wtf you're doin then no one else can do better.......yea that about sums it up......lol
LOL......cool man. I'm ok with you not believing it. The funny part is I'm not the fastest ls6. So I guess you don't believe that guy either. There is also another that out et'd me but I out mph'd him. BTW I went over 130 on the stock springs. I just did the 1.8's just to see if there was any power left in it with the stock cam.
Basically you don't believe because you don't know how it's done. Let me phrase this another way. Because you don't know wtf you're doin then no one else can do better.......yea that about sums it up......lol
01-31-2014, 06:47 AM
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I don't know what I'm doing because I don't hack up my car and go cutting holes in it and put in gay racing interior and ugly ****? I've seen the interior of you car man.... Have you seen your steering wheel and shifter? **** looks like it came straight from fast and furious. And than you don't even list your fulll mods? Why? and what else are you leaving out? Your car isn't a bolt-on car so this discussion really doesn't even matter... You couldn't continue to run 1.8's reliably on ls6 springs even if they were perfect. I'm sure you have dropped waay more $ into that car than I have in my Z06 and for what? Btw are your heads ported to Hio?
I bought my car new.......and most of the parts I ave bought were used and some I have made. So yeah......huge $$$ Why don't you call out everyone on here for spending money are their car?? Hey guys........come of you have bought c6Z's.......shame on you. You guys with ZR1's should have your cars taken and parted out.
Anyone here see a old school t handle in Fast and Furious?? Your dumbass don't even know the why's to me putting it on. You ever see a f-body steering wheel?? that's the worst part of the car IMO. I hated that steering wheel since the car was new.
Nice try. Your about to do the best thing you can do for your self and put that charger on.
Look out errryone......here comes another high 12 sec supercharged c5z.
01-31-2014, 07:53 AM
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Go on.... my friends 06 GTO A4 was a turd completely stock and even with a dyno tune and CAI my bone stock Z28 was still beating him by a couple mph and a couple of tenths on our best runs at the track (Same day, same track, side by side runs) and he had 1.9x 60fts vs my 2.1xs. I always felt something was wrong with the tune...knew nothing about MAF tables being fucked.
01-31-2014, 08:28 AM
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No my heads are not ported. I have said I have changed the springs many times before. Sure it's a bolt-on car, engine is stock other than 1.8's and springs. And it had went over 130 W/O those, seems you fail to understand that. Not to mention I was gonna change springs anyway and why the hell would you put stock ones back on it. Sometimes you do **** at a convenience instead of worrying about a bunch of fake rules. Are you a democrat?
I bought my car new.......and most of the parts I ave bought were used and some I have made. So yeah......huge $$$ Why don't you call out everyone on here for spending money are their car?? Hey guys........come of you have bought c6Z's.......shame on you. You guys with ZR1's should have your cars taken and parted out.
Anyone here see a old school t handle in Fast and Furious?? Your dumbass don't even know the why's to me putting it on. You ever see a f-body steering wheel?? that's the worst part of the car IMO. I hated that steering wheel since the car was new.
Nice try. Your about to do the best thing you can do for your self and put that charger on.
Look out errryone......here comes another high 12 sec supercharged c5z.
I bought my car new.......and most of the parts I ave bought were used and some I have made. So yeah......huge $$$ Why don't you call out everyone on here for spending money are their car?? Hey guys........come of you have bought c6Z's.......shame on you. You guys with ZR1's should have your cars taken and parted out.
Anyone here see a old school t handle in Fast and Furious?? Your dumbass don't even know the why's to me putting it on. You ever see a f-body steering wheel?? that's the worst part of the car IMO. I hated that steering wheel since the car was new.
Nice try. Your about to do the best thing you can do for your self and put that charger on.
Look out errryone......here comes another high 12 sec supercharged c5z.
Plus you had to have cut up your car to get it down to that weight. I had a bolt on body with weight reduction. You can't get to that weight without hacking **** up... And you're right I can't setup a car, but my actual bolt-on only stock internal ls1 ran 11's with FULL interior!
I'll give it to you your car traps well weather it is a bolt-on ls6 or not... As for my car being a 12 sec car... We can make that bet if you want. I'm not scared to launch the car. You just have to slip it right to where you cut good 60, but don't shock the parts. It will be 11's and trap upper 120's...
01-31-2014, 09:12 AM
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I've seen 2980 on the scales once. Very low on gas......was even wondering if I was gonna make to the gas station. No floor mats and all my crap outta the car, drag pack and no front bar. I've never ran it like that. Last time out it had all my crap, floor mats and 3/4 tank of gas 3070 or so would be my guess. Car also has a fab 9 in it now. It may have picked up 20lb. IDK cause my scales were broke then. FYI.....c5z's can come in less than 3100.
Your n/a **** never caused any butt hurt. Hell your gt100 causes no butt hurt. Everyone knows you're a joke.
Your n/a **** never caused any butt hurt. Hell your gt100 causes no butt hurt. Everyone knows you're a joke.
01-31-2014, 09:14 AM
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Go on.... my friends 06 GTO A4 was a turd completely stock and even with a dyno tune and CAI my bone stock Z28 was still beating him by a couple mph and a couple of tenths on our best runs at the track (Same day, same track, side by side runs) and he had 1.9x 60fts vs my 2.1xs. I always felt something was wrong with the tune...knew nothing about MAF tables being fucked.
01-31-2014, 09:55 AM
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Go on.... my friends 06 GTO A4 was a turd completely stock and even with a dyno tune and CAI my bone stock Z28 was still beating him by a couple mph and a couple of tenths on our best runs at the track (Same day, same track, side by side runs) and he had 1.9x 60fts vs my 2.1xs. I always felt something was wrong with the tune...knew nothing about MAF tables being fucked.