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Old 02-18-2014, 03:39 AM
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That 5.0 runs good for sure, but no way should it be beating a ported Cobra making 70 more hp and weighing roughly the same. Maybe it's the driver mod lol
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Slow shifts on the Cobro, 5.Br0 runs pretty good.
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It's not all about peak power on a dyno
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Originally Posted by automach1
It's not all about peak power on a dyno
I agree with that in a lot of cases, but in this case you have to really wonder. I mean the cars should weigh roughly the same, the termi is making 70 more hp (and probably a 100 more tq) both 6-speed manuals, etc...Not the mention the Cobra is going to make more overall average power than the 5.0 due to the positive displacement blower. In this particular case I really think it's the driver mod
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Originally Posted by automach1
It's not all about peak power on a dyno
You're a complete retard. Why you always winking and smiling queer bate.

Don't you think the cobra made more power everywhere.
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I agree with that in a lot of cases, but in this case you have to really wonder. I mean the cars should weigh roughly the same, the termi is making 70 more hp (and probably a 100 more tq) both 6-speed manuals, etc...Not the mention the Cobra is going to make more overall average power than the 5.0 due to the positive displacement blower. In this particular case I really think it's the driver mod
I wonder if this will convince the cobro fella's of their dynoqueenness.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
You're a complete retard. Why you always winking and smiling queer bate.

Don't you think the cobra made more power everywhere.


I wonder if this will convince the cobro fella's of their dynoqueenness.
Still butthurt over your shitbox being slower I see
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Originally Posted by HCI2000SS
I agree with that in a lot of cases, but in this case you have to really wonder. I mean the cars should weigh roughly the same, the termi is making 70 more hp (and probably a 100 more tq) both 6-speed manuals, etc...Not the mention the Cobra is going to make more overall average power than the 5.0 due to the positive displacement blower. In this particular case I really think it's the driver mod
Dyno numbers don't win races man.
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Originally Posted by automach1
Still butthurt over your shitbox being slower I see
Actually no......because it's not.
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Isn't that the same 5.0 that beat a E85 AED tuned 5.0? So much for bama tunes being **** like most folks say lol.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Actually no......because it's not.
Wrong 133 > 131
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One of My good friends made 410rwhp and 400rwtq with just intake,dyno tune (93), x pipe. It's a stout car for sure .
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Actually no......because it's not.
all you have to do is "borrow" time slip like he did and you can run 8s.
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Originally Posted by automach1
Dyno numbers don't win races man.
I don't disagree with that at all, but all i'm saying is that if you have 2 cars that weigh the same, have similar gearing, similar drivers, etc...the car with more hp & tq should win....especially if it has 70 more hp and a 100 plus tq. Other factors could come into play as well like maybe the Cobra was a little heat soaked, or maybe being on different dynos gave more exaggerated numbers to one of the rides in question. Who the hell knows lol, but if ALL else is truly equal the Cobra really should have won IMO. I respect what you're saying though
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Good running 5.0. But Cobra definitely needed a better driver. Equal drivers, I say the cobra is out about a car length
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You think the CJ intake is worth the money on a 5.0 GT?
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If you are considering the Boss intake... then absolutely.

The Boss intake is really just a power band change. You will make a bit more power up top... but will lose a significant amount down low and in the midrange. With the CJ, it does shift your powerband... but you make A LOT more power in doing so. I would still get longtubes, 3.73s/3.90s, and other bolt ons before doing an intake swap. Boss/CJ intakes suck with 3.31/3.55 gears. But if you stick with the stock manifold... you can make LS tq. But you will ultimately sacrifice what could be 30whp through you curve to gain keep some tq that you will never actually use in a race.
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Originally Posted by evangto87
If you are considering the Boss intake... then absolutely.

The Boss intake is really just a power band change. You will make a bit more power up top... but will lose a significant amount down low and in the midrange. With the CJ, it does shift your powerband... but you make A LOT more power in doing so. I would still get longtubes, 3.73s/3.90s, and other bolt ons before doing an intake swap. Boss/CJ intakes suck with 3.31/3.55 gears. But if you stick with the stock manifold... you can make LS tq. But you will ultimately sacrifice what could be 30whp through you curve to gain keep some tq that you will never actually use in a race.
You are pretty much spot on! Here is one of my favorite tuners out where I live that i've know for many years, and here is his findings.

http://www.alternativeauto.com/Water...02_Intake.html
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
You're a complete retard. Why you always winking and smiling queer bate.

Don't you think the cobra made more power everywhere.


I wonder if this will convince the cobro fella's of their dynoqueenness.
Cobra doesn't have a power curve that looks like this




Coyote is also better geared.

But I definitely agree, guy in the cobra shifted SLOW. Cobra should have put 1/2-1 car on the coyote
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
You're a complete retard. Why you always winking and smiling queer bate.

Don't you think the cobra made more power everywhere.


I wonder if this will convince the cobro fella's of their dynoqueenness.
no the cobra did not make more power everywhere. 6700-7600 the cobra made zero horsepower. the rpm drop of a coyote using a boss or cobra jet intake shifting at 7600 is still near max hp. bascially never drops out. driver mod matters.

Originally Posted by evangto87
If you are considering the Boss intake... then absolutely.

The Boss intake is really just a power band change. You will make a bit more power up top... but will lose a significant amount down low and in the midrange. With the CJ, it does shift your powerband... but you make A LOT more power in doing so. I would still get longtubes, 3.73s/3.90s, and other bolt ons before doing an intake swap. Boss/CJ intakes suck with 3.31/3.55 gears. But if you stick with the stock manifold... you can make LS tq. But you will ultimately sacrifice what could be 30whp through you curve to gain keep some tq that you will never actually use in a race.
cobra jet intake is a revolution in power possibilities in a coyote or especially a BOSS.


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