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Old 06-09-2014, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Gt4urass
There isn't one. They're all speculation as of this moment.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/go/news/...ill-be-heavier
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Originally Posted by big hammer
it was brought up by a mustang guy...
you asshat. where the **** do you get off calling me a mustang guy?


i own two. and other stuff. like cadillac's. i wish i never bought the 2011GT. i hate the sumbitch.

going to have to change things to make it decent, like the whole suspension, trans, clutch type, etc.


i havent gotten rid of it because im through buying new cars.

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Who didn't know the new stang wasn't goin to heavier? A bigger car with more content is gonna be heavier........no matter how much furd **** you gargle. I was hoping they atleast held the line. It'll be lucky if the fifgen don't outrun it real good.
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Looks like the tables will turn and the Fif Gen will gain a little bit in straight line performance due to the added weight of the Mustang. If I had to guess, the Mustang will jump ahead of the Fif Gen in sales, due to the new body style.
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Originally Posted by Gt4urass
300lbs was a guess made by Steeda...not a fact. In the case of the 1LE and Track Pack, in the hands of equal drivers on a road course, the 1LE is faster. Straight line could go either way.
I more or less concur with Gtuphisass.
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yup. everyone knows the 1le is a significantly better car. the gt with a track pack is basically one step above the handling of twin I beam..
Pinchaloaf is mostly wrong.
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Who didn't know the new stang wasn't goin to heavier? A bigger car with more content is gonna be heavier........no matter how much furd **** you gargle. I was hoping they atleast held the line. It'll be lucky if the fifgen don't outrun it real good.
All of this remains to be seen. I'm not convinced that the 15 is bigger than the 14.
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Originally Posted by islander033
I more or less concur with Gtuphisass.

Pinchaloaf is mostly wrong.

All of this remains to be seen. I'm not convinced that the 15 is bigger than the 14.
I lol'd
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Originally Posted by islander033

All of this remains to be seen. I'm not convinced that the 15 is bigger than the 14.
Dont look bigger to me.
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Do you know what "speculation" means?
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I couldn't even tell it was a 1LE and if not, that story is instantly explained.

Originally Posted by assasinator
it appears that fortunes are going to reverse.

the new mustang GT IS NOT lighter than now and it will be heavier than the new camaro SS.


the 6th gen camaro SS will own the mustang GT. 300 lbs is the quote from Steeda.
C'mon... STEEDA already went public that it never weighed the Mustang and doesn't know the truth there. Even if they do know(and I bet they do), they're not about to spill those beans without Ford giving prior, probably written, approval. Were I to bet on it, my bet would be the new Mustang weighs within 100 lb of the old, lighter or heavier. I just don't see adding the massive additional weight of IRS, then trimming so much in other places, to come up with a large overall difference.

Ford has only said, publicly, that the new Mustang GT is faster than the BOSS 302 LS at Laguna Seca... It won't matter if it weighs 300,000 lb if it beats that car... it will be a run for the other cars in its class.

Originally Posted by big hammer
yup. everyone knows the 1le is a significantly better car. the gt with a track pack is basically one step above the handling of twin I beam..
Heh... and yet it SMASHES the non 1LE Camaro SS, IRS and all.. I guess that Camaro is like one step below the handling of twin I beam, eh??? Dummy...

Originally Posted by assasinator
you asshat. where the **** do you get off calling me a mustang guy?


i own two. and other stuff. like cadillac's. i wish i never boguth the 2011GT. i hate the sumbitch.

going to have to change things to make it decent, like the whole suspension, trans, clutch type, etc.


i havent gotten rid of it because im through buying new cars.
It's kinda hard to claim yourself not a Mustang guy when you own two... Just sayin' ... I mean, I'm not only a Mustang guy... perhaps you aren't either.
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I just read another "guess" about it which claims the new 2015 GT fastback w/ auto weighs 3,638 lb... and gets just under 27mpg... Think I believe it? No, not yet. Why would I anyway? It looks like the 2014 specs to me...
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Originally Posted by It'llrun

Heh... and yet it SMASHES the non 1LE Camaro SS, IRS and all..

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Actually it don't. A track pack car and a standard SS would be on par. A 1le smashes them both.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Actually it don't. A track pack car and a standard SS would be on par. A 1le smashes them both.
yeah. the regular SS got a good suspension revamp in 2012. everyone forgets that.
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i'm sure I read that the wheelbase of the '15 is virtually identical to the '14. a lot of the rumoured weight loss was because the '15 was supposed to be significantly smaller. ford also added IRS which is heavier and had to add more structural supports. expect weights to be similar to the current SS and more than the soon to be released 6th gen.
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Originally Posted by big hammer
yeah. the regular SS got a good suspension revamp in 2012. everyone forgets that.
NONSENSE! The 2012 still loses, just like the 2010 and 2011 did, on road courses. That's much of why Chevy built the 1LE. Hence forth, magazines have apparently disregarded the non 1LE SS ... find an indepth performance article on one... I dare ya!

Originally Posted by big hammer
i'm sure I read that the wheelbase of the '15 is virtually identical to the '14. a lot of the rumoured weight loss was because the '15 was supposed to be significantly smaller. ford also added IRS which is heavier and had to add more structural supports. expect weights to be similar to the current SS and more than the soon to be released 6th gen.
The 2015 has the same wheelbase as the 2014... it's track is also wider by 3" in the back and 1.5" up front, making the whole car wider. It gets larger tires, supposedly. That said, it's shorter in height and has less glass than the current model and it has aluminum in more places. I think it may well be heavier anyway, but really doubt it's going to be more than 100 lb in base V8 form.

I certainly wouldn't bet on it being as heavy as the Camaro SS.
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Originally Posted by adamantium
hows that 302?
Pretty good making double the hp your car makes.
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Originally Posted by It'llrun
NONSENSE! The 2012 still loses, just like the 2010 and 2011 did, on road courses. That's much of why Chevy built the 1LE. Hence forth, magazines have apparently disregarded the non 1LE SS ... find an indepth performance article on one... I dare ya!

The 2015 has the same wheelbase as the 2014... it's track is also wider by 3" in the back and 1.5" up front, making the whole car wider. It gets larger tires, supposedly. That said, it's shorter in height and has less glass than the current model and it has aluminum in more places. I think it may well be heavier anyway, but really doubt it's going to be more than 100 lb in base V8 form.

I certainly wouldn't bet on it being as heavy as the Camaro SS.
the 1le beats the boss, the regular ss beats the gt.
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Originally Posted by ->BJ<-
Dont look bigger to me.
damn that stang is UGLY !!!
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Thats what I said. Looks like a fusion or something.

I still think the 05'-10' look the best overall. Im keeping my slow 3v.
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Originally Posted by big hammer
the 1le beats the boss, the regular ss beats the gt.
Have you raced either of them? Outside of your dreams of course.
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Originally Posted by big hammer
yeah. the regular SS got a good suspension revamp in 2012. everyone forgets that.
Yes they do. I would say 12 and newer SS Camaro's are more on par with a Boss in the handling department.

LOL @ itdontrun......what a stupid tool


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