Family fued- 14 ss 1le vs 14 coyote 5.0
08-10-2014, 09:14 PM
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Family fued- 14 ss 1le vs 14 coyote 5.0 I have a black 2014 camaro 1le with 2600 miles now. A few weeks ago my cousin sold his 08 mustang gt conv. And now has a 14 blk mustang 5.0 conv that he has been talking crap about. He says it's no wAy in hell my m6 can come close to his auto. Today all the crap talking came to an end. We went to an old spot outside of town for a 2 out of 3 digs. The 1st run I left At about 2000 rpm and the car nose dive, he wAs 1/2 a car on me out the gate, I shifted to 2nd and pulled him a whole car. I slapped 3rd and he was a car and 1/2 behind, I grabbed 4th and he was in my rear view mirror. It was ugly. The 2nd run was the same way. He still couldn't believe I roasted his *** so he wanted one more race. This time I left at 2500 rpm and pulled him a car out the gate winning by at least 4. Now he feels disgusted because he went 7hrs to buy that pig.
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08-10-2014, 10:26 PM
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yeah I know. A buddy of my has a 13 5.0 with the trakpack, longtubes, x-pipe, and tune. But his driving is terrible. The car is a beast so i'll stay out of his way until I get exhaust and tuned, then we'll try them out.
08-10-2014, 10:53 PM
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do a before and after run so you can see the difference the mods make!
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08-11-2014, 11:54 AM
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If there is a problem with the cars it's the weight.....not the power.
Remember gm lost 40lb of rotating weight on just the wheel tire combo on the Z28. There is a reason for that.
So what your saying is the ls3>5.0......cause if their weight is the same/near and the ls3 thrashes it.....then well.....figure it out.
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08-11-2014, 12:14 PM
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[QUOTE=HioSSilver;18368194]Do yourself a favor and ship the exhaust and tune for now.....not the place to start with 5gens. 1st mod should be getting rid of that 62~ clutch for at least in the low 30's and preferably around 25lb. 2nd mod lighter drive shaft. 3rd mod lighter wheels/tires. Not necessarily in that order but those are the 3 most important.
If there is a problem with the cars it's the weight.....not the power.
Remember gm lost 40lb of rotating weight on just the wheel tire combo on the Z28. There is a reason for that.
Good information Hio. Different way of thinking and makes a lot of sense.
So what your saying is the ls3>5.0......cause if their weight is the same/near and the ls3 thrashes it.....then well.....figure it out.
"IF"..For a small amount of letters, "IF" is a big word. The body(chassis) and the motor/trans/gears makes up the vehicle as a whole and the two cannot be treated individually.
A big part of the Mustang's success is making light bodies with a motor that makes good power for its weight. As stated, weight, power, gearing and suspension together make a car what it is....not just the Hp rating of the motor. /QUOTE]
If there is a problem with the cars it's the weight.....not the power.
Remember gm lost 40lb of rotating weight on just the wheel tire combo on the Z28. There is a reason for that.
Good information Hio. Different way of thinking and makes a lot of sense.
So what your saying is the ls3>5.0......cause if their weight is the same/near and the ls3 thrashes it.....then well.....figure it out.
"IF"..For a small amount of letters, "IF" is a big word. The body(chassis) and the motor/trans/gears makes up the vehicle as a whole and the two cannot be treated individually.
A big part of the Mustang's success is making light bodies with a motor that makes good power for its weight. As stated, weight, power, gearing and suspension together make a car what it is....not just the Hp rating of the motor. /QUOTE]
08-11-2014, 12:19 PM
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[QUOTE=MACHXLR8;18368223] Thanks.....now fix your quote.....lol
When you throw more power at a heavy car like the 5gen the only thing that really gets accomplished is more heat/stress. The trick is to "free" the car up. You take the parts I mention could easily take over 100lb of rotating weight out of that car.......if the right parts are chosen probably closer to 130lb rotating. What do you think that would do for it?
Yes if is a big word. But given any of the circumstances we have seen any combo of 5.0 gets killed when it gets near 5gen weight.
Do yourself a favor and ship the exhaust and tune for now.....not the place to start with 5gens. 1st mod should be getting rid of that 62~ clutch for at least in the low 30's and preferably around 25lb. 2nd mod lighter drive shaft. 3rd mod lighter wheels/tires. Not necessarily in that order but those are the 3 most important.
If there is a problem with the cars it's the weight.....not the power.
Remember gm lost 40lb of rotating weight on just the wheel tire combo on the Z28. There is a reason for that.
Good information Hio. Different way of thinking and makes a lot of sense.
So what your saying is the ls3>5.0......cause if their weight is the same/near and the ls3 thrashes it.....then well.....figure it out.
"IF"..For a small amount of letters, "IF" is a big word. The body(chassis) and the motor/trans/gears makes up the vehicle as a whole and the two cannot be treated individually.
A big part of the Mustang's success is making light bodies with a motor that makes good power for its weight. As stated, weight, power, gearing and suspension together make a car what it is....not just the Hp rating of the motor. /QUOTE]
If there is a problem with the cars it's the weight.....not the power.
Remember gm lost 40lb of rotating weight on just the wheel tire combo on the Z28. There is a reason for that.
Good information Hio. Different way of thinking and makes a lot of sense.
So what your saying is the ls3>5.0......cause if their weight is the same/near and the ls3 thrashes it.....then well.....figure it out.
"IF"..For a small amount of letters, "IF" is a big word. The body(chassis) and the motor/trans/gears makes up the vehicle as a whole and the two cannot be treated individually.
A big part of the Mustang's success is making light bodies with a motor that makes good power for its weight. As stated, weight, power, gearing and suspension together make a car what it is....not just the Hp rating of the motor. /QUOTE]
When you throw more power at a heavy car like the 5gen the only thing that really gets accomplished is more heat/stress. The trick is to "free" the car up. You take the parts I mention could easily take over 100lb of rotating weight out of that car.......if the right parts are chosen probably closer to 130lb rotating. What do you think that would do for it?
Yes if is a big word. But given any of the circumstances we have seen any combo of 5.0 gets killed when it gets near 5gen weight.
Last edited by HioSSilver; 08-11-2014 at 12:25 PM.
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Lol sry but its not automachs car so id have to disagree
Edit: also that extra weight taken out would put it in the ball park of a stock GTO weight. Considering the 1LE weighs 3860lbs and its rotational weigh none the less it would be considerably faster.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-revi...amaro-ss-1le-2
And a 2005 GTO weighs 3725lbs
http://www.edmunds.com/pontiac/gto/2...res-specs.html
Id say it would run at least a mid 12s with that extra 100lbs (at least) rotational weight out.
Edit: also that extra weight taken out would put it in the ball park of a stock GTO weight. Considering the 1LE weighs 3860lbs and its rotational weigh none the less it would be considerably faster.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-revi...amaro-ss-1le-2
And a 2005 GTO weighs 3725lbs
http://www.edmunds.com/pontiac/gto/2...res-specs.html
Id say it would run at least a mid 12s with that extra 100lbs (at least) rotational weight out.
Last edited by "MAC"; 08-11-2014 at 01:47 PM.