my 14 1Le vs 13 5.0 trakpak. FINALLY
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Here's the 1LE package:
The final drive is the only thing I see that would make it quicker than an SS. It seems like all of the extra kit may even make it heavier than a base V8 car. Maybe the dual mode exhaust helps a little as well?
When my car was stock I pulled on a stock LS3 SS by about 2-2.5 cars.
front anti-roll-bar mounting setup, 10-by-20-inch front wheels and 11-by-20-inch rears, and beefier half-shafts. The equipment pilfered directly from the ZL1 includes wheel bearings, toe links, rear shock mounts, the fuel pump, the flat-bottom steering wheel, the short-throw six-speed manual and its transmission cooler, and 285/35-20 Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar G: 2 tires all around (the ZL1 gets 305/35-20 rubber at the rear). The beefy wheel-and-tire combo actually saves a total of 22 pounds of unsprung weight.
The 1LE package also comes with a shorter final-drive ratio of 3.91:1 versus the 3.45:1 rear end in the SS and adds monotube rear dampers—instead of the SS’s twin tubes—and a strut-tower brace.
The 1LE package also comes with a shorter final-drive ratio of 3.91:1 versus the 3.45:1 rear end in the SS and adds monotube rear dampers—instead of the SS’s twin tubes—and a strut-tower brace.
When my car was stock I pulled on a stock LS3 SS by about 2-2.5 cars.
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Here's the 1LE package:
The final drive is the only thing I see that would make it quicker than an SS. It seems like all of the extra kit may even make it heavier than a base V8 car. Maybe the dual mode exhaust helps a little as well?
When my car was stock I pulled on a stock LS3 SS by about 2-2.5 cars.
The final drive is the only thing I see that would make it quicker than an SS. It seems like all of the extra kit may even make it heavier than a base V8 car. Maybe the dual mode exhaust helps a little as well?
When my car was stock I pulled on a stock LS3 SS by about 2-2.5 cars.
The stock wheels of the 1LE are lighter than SS wheels. I think the 1LE is better at roll racing than a SS cause of gearing but the SS is better geared for the 1/4. The 1LE has a short throw shifter too. And since 13' they have the electric power steering, freeing some hp. All details that count in the end.
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I'll post my very average times for you guys again..
Stock 12.9 @ 108
CAI, tune, Xpipe 12.45 @ 115
Getting those times was easy peasy. Step on the gas and go. It's not a light car either.. with the options the curb weight sits at 3900#. I would be pretty far down on any kind of Coyote fastest list. However the 1le list is a different story..
I'd rank #3 on the stock 1le list, and #2 on the bolt ons list - with less bolt ons than 90% of them
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...ight=Fast+List
Stock - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...=sharing#gid=0
Bolt ons - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...=sharing#gid=0
The lists represent my actual experience racing 5th Gens, whether 1le optioned or not it didn't make a difference. So how many races have you guys had in your 5th gens with a different outcome? Wait.... do you guys own 5th gens...
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^^ well I did 12.77@113mph with a 2.2 60ft. I bet your 60ft is way better than that heh? Track is bad and DA is far from good too. 2100 DA IIRC. FWIW a 2014 stingray never trap more than 113mph that day and did a best of 12.47 average 12.60-70.
5th are doing pretty ok. Early L99 gave the bad rep to the 5th. Now the fastest 5th are the boltons L99.
5th are doing pretty ok. Early L99 gave the bad rep to the 5th. Now the fastest 5th are the boltons L99.
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^^ well I did 12.77@113mph with a 2.2 60ft. I bet your 60ft is way better than that heh? Track is bad and DA is far from good too. 2100 DA IIRC. FWIW a 2014 stingray never trap more than 113mph that day and did a best of 12.47 average 12.60-70.
5th are doing pretty ok. Early L99 gave the bad rep to the 5th. Now the fastest car are the boltons L99.
5th are doing pretty ok. Early L99 gave the bad rep to the 5th. Now the fastest car are the boltons L99.
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Do you suggest starting with a motor swap and ******* hole saws? Yeah dude leave the basic **** alone until you do those... My god....
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I'll post my very average times for you guys again..
Stock 12.9 @ 108
CAI, tune, Xpipe 12.45 @ 115
Getting those times was easy peasy. Step on the gas and go. It's not a light car either.. with the options the curb weight sits at 3900#. I would be pretty far down on any kind of Coyote fastest list. However the 1le list is a different story..
I'd rank #3 on the stock 1le list, and #2 on the bolt ons list - with less bolt ons than 90% of them
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...ight=Fast+List
Stock - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...=sharing#gid=0
Bolt ons - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...=sharing#gid=0
The lists represent my actual experience racing 5th Gens, whether 1le optioned or not it didn't make a difference. So how many races have you guys had in your 5th gens with a different outcome? Wait.... do you guys own 5th gens...
I'll post my very average times for you guys again..
Stock 12.9 @ 108
CAI, tune, Xpipe 12.45 @ 115
Getting those times was easy peasy. Step on the gas and go. It's not a light car either.. with the options the curb weight sits at 3900#. I would be pretty far down on any kind of Coyote fastest list. However the 1le list is a different story..
I'd rank #3 on the stock 1le list, and #2 on the bolt ons list - with less bolt ons than 90% of them
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...ight=Fast+List
Stock - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...=sharing#gid=0
Bolt ons - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...=sharing#gid=0
The lists represent my actual experience racing 5th Gens, whether 1le optioned or not it didn't make a difference. So how many races have you guys had in your 5th gens with a different outcome? Wait.... do you guys own 5th gens...
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Sounds like a good close run. Do not be discouraged OP. Throw on a mod or two and run him again. Then see what happens.
Try to get a vid, if you can. I'd like to see that run.
Try to get a vid, if you can. I'd like to see that run.
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Puff, puff pass
I'll post my very average times for you guys again..
Stock 12.9 @ 108
CAI, tune, Xpipe 12.45 @ 115
Getting those times was easy peasy. Step on the gas and go. It's not a light car either.. with the options the curb weight sits at 3900#. I would be pretty far down on any kind of Coyote fastest list. However the 1le list is a different story..
I'd rank #3 on the stock 1le list, and #2 on the bolt ons list - with less bolt ons than 90% of them
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...ight=Fast+List
Stock - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...=sharing#gid=0
Bolt ons - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...=sharing#gid=0
The lists represent my actual experience racing 5th Gens, whether 1le optioned or not it didn't make a difference. So how many races have you guys had in your 5th gens with a different outcome? Wait.... do you guys own 5th gens...
I'll post my very average times for you guys again..
Stock 12.9 @ 108
CAI, tune, Xpipe 12.45 @ 115
Getting those times was easy peasy. Step on the gas and go. It's not a light car either.. with the options the curb weight sits at 3900#. I would be pretty far down on any kind of Coyote fastest list. However the 1le list is a different story..
I'd rank #3 on the stock 1le list, and #2 on the bolt ons list - with less bolt ons than 90% of them
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...ight=Fast+List
Stock - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...=sharing#gid=0
Bolt ons - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...=sharing#gid=0
The lists represent my actual experience racing 5th Gens, whether 1le optioned or not it didn't make a difference. So how many races have you guys had in your 5th gens with a different outcome? Wait.... do you guys own 5th gens...
Dude.....you really have no clue. Why don't you go drive your cammed untuned car some more for us.
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Define a stock 4th gen.. I've watched many LS cars go 13.3 - 13.5 bone stock in decent air.. 12.9's? No... the ones that do are very rare and anyone who says different has blinders on. I've seen tune/slick M6 5.0's running 11.80's in sea level air, but you don't see me telling you that is the norm.
Ok, I am confused how a 1LE matching a average 5.0 time makes them faster.
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Don't feed the troll man. Seems like most 4th gen owners on this forum claim the 5.0 sucks even though they don't even own one lol. But they will tell you that a 5th gen has the advantage over a 5.0 because there buddy ran this or that. Being a a former 5th gen and 5.0 owner i will till you they are full of ****.
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Don't feed the troll man. Seems like most 4th gen owners on this forum claim the 5.0 sucks even though they don't even own one lol. But they will tell you that a 5th gen has the advantage over a 5.0 because there buddy ran this or that. Being a a former 5th gen and 5.0 owner i will till you they are full of ****.