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Old 01-25-2015, 12:58 PM
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maybe my pc is acting up, but i didnt see a video for proof...
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Would buy a regular GT350 over the R any day of the week. GT350R is hideous.
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Originally Posted by NateLS1Mustang
Would buy a regular GT350 over the R any day of the week. GT350R is hideous.
yup, looks just like a Nissan GT-R
Old 01-25-2015, 01:06 PM
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I dont see the GTR reference honestly. I hate the looks of a GTR. But love the GT350.

I also dont understand how the same car can be so closely compared to the Honda Accord... and then compared to the GTR in terms of looks. When a Honda Accord and GTR look NOTHING alike. Can someone explain this one to me?
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I think the gt350 looks great.....same for the r model that is a 2seat car and not a direct competitor to the z28. It's nice that furd can actually best a chassis and engine that is nearly 10 years old......lol

Hopefully we will get to see some head to heads and hopefully gm will do a 6gen z28. The longer this goes on the more likely the base models that are somewhat affordable will benefit.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
I think the gt350 looks great.....same for the r model that is a 2seat car and not a direct competitor to the z28. It's nice that furd can actually best a chassis and engine that is nearly 10 years old......lol

Hopefully we will get to see some head to heads and hopefully gm will do a 6gen z28. The longer this goes on the more likely the base models that are somewhat affordable will benefit.
How is the gt350r not a competitor for the z28?
Both v8s
Both track versions of base vehicles
Both CC brakes
Both track based suspension
Both dropped weight
Both extensively developed at the ring
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I can keep going.
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Is road racing that popular now? I must have missed it. Looks cool though.
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Ford actually stated that the R model was the direct competitor for the Z28. They wanted to build a car that would retail for 75k. I dont see how no back seat would have anything to do with it. You can argue the Z28 isnt a direct comparison then because it has no radio. Seems silly. The laguna seca doesnt have a back seat and Id prefer that. I hate having back seats... but i hate aftermarket seat deletes and dont feel like spending 1500 on an OEM Ford seat delete for my car.

I couldnt live without a radio...


The difference between the GT350 and the GT350R is what the the difference between the Boss and Laguna Seca should have been. But the Laguna was a stupid gimic. Only real benefit is it had substantially better tires.
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Originally Posted by evangto87
Ford actually stated that the R model was the direct competitor for the Z28. They wanted to build a car that would retail for 75k. I dont see how no back seat would have anything to do with it. You can argue the Z28 isnt a direct comparison then because it has no radio. Seems silly. The laguna seca doesnt have a back seat and Id prefer that. I hate having back seats... but i hate aftermarket seat deletes and dont feel like spending 1500 on an OEM Ford seat delete for my car.

I couldnt live without a radio...


The difference between the GT350 and the GT350R is what the the difference between the Boss and Laguna Seca should have been. But the Laguna was a stupid gimic. Only real benefit is it had substantially better tires.
If i bought either one, i would add the radio and ac back.
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Originally Posted by evangto87
That must have come after the level 5.1 earthquake the car had just recovered from
Tsunami!!
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Originally Posted by liqidvenom
How is the gt350r not a competitor for the z28?
It's not a direct competitor if it beats it. If this article is not true and it doesn't beat the Z/28, then it will be a direct competitor.
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Originally Posted by liqidvenom
If i bought either one, i would add the radio and ac back.
I think thats a 5k option from the factory....sadly. Now its an $80k car. I cant see how getting rid of the two most important features of a car... was their first thought for removing weight. Youre talking no more then 65-75lbs total. Just seems silly.
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Originally Posted by liqidvenom
How is the gt350r not a competitor for the z28?
Both v8s
Both track versions of base vehicles
Both CC brakes
Both track based suspension
Both dropped weight
Both extensively developed at the ring
...

I can keep going.
Originally Posted by evangto87
Ford actually stated that the R model was the direct competitor for the Z28. They wanted to build a car that would retail for 75k. I dont see how no back seat would have anything to do with it. You can argue the Z28 isnt a direct comparison then because it has no radio. Seems silly. The laguna seca doesnt have a back seat and Id prefer that. I hate having back seats... but i hate aftermarket seat deletes and dont feel like spending 1500 on an OEM Ford seat delete for my car.

I couldnt live without a radio...


The difference between the GT350 and the GT350R is what the the difference between the Boss and Laguna Seca should have been. But the Laguna was a stupid gimic. Only real benefit is it had substantially better tires.
For both of........one's a 4 seat car and the other is a 2 seat car. Nuff said

So no comment on furds latest greatest competing with 10 year gm stuff??....lol

I personally think there is a huge difference in stuff being designed from the ground up for a specific purpose rather that adapting old stuff to work. The camaro has been a adaption of a sedan chassis since day one. Gm done a fine job of making it work but it's got it's limits.
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Originally Posted by Blown383LS1
It's not a direct competitor if it beats it. If this article is not true and it doesn't beat the Z/28, then it will be a direct competitor.
You can beat something on one track and then be beat on another track. No one is fully dominant everywhere.
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Originally Posted by NW-99SS
Tsunami!!
That was turn 3. But it did handle that part well. It is a boat after all
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Originally Posted by Blown383LS1
It's not a direct competitor if it beats it. If this article is not true and it doesn't beat the Z/28, then it will be a direct competitor.
Nope....still a 2 seat car. It competes with other 2 seat cars.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
For both of........one's a 4 seat car and the other is a 2 seat car. Nuff said

So no comment on furds latest greatest competing with 10 year gm stuff??....lol

I personally think there is a huge difference in stuff being designed from the ground up for a specific purpose rather that adapting old stuff to work. The camaro has been a adaption of a sedan chassis since day one. Gm done a fine job of making it work but it's got it's limits.
Removing a set of seats doesnt eliminate it from being a competitor. The z28 lost its HIDs in becoming the z28, that doesnt some how change what it compares against since the gt3/etc have HIDs
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wow...I cant fathom a response...
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Originally Posted by liqidvenom
Removing a set of seats doesnt eliminate it from being a competitor. The z28 lost its HIDs in becoming the z28, that doesnt some how change what it compares against since the gt3/etc have HIDs
No HIDs???? Put it in the class with the Paganis and koenigseggs now
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Originally Posted by evangto87
No HIDs???? Put it in the class with the Paganis and koenigseggs now
easy those have boosted v8's, not competitors
Aside from being hand build million dollar plus vehicles.


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