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Old 07-16-2015, 11:33 AM
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**UPDATE**

Buddy got his car back tuned and with the new cams installed.

He has an 03' GT automatic with full bolt ons (headers, ORX, catback, CAI, TB, TB plenum, recent cams, and 3.73 gears)

My mods are in my sig.

He let an idiot friend drive it and he curbed the s*** out of it and tore up 2 rims

However he will have his new rims and tires on monday and I will see if i can get a run in with him around that time.

I will update the tread as I get information and I just have to tell you what was said because based on the last thread, it is hilarious!

So last time we ran (before his cams) we did some digs and 20 rolls. I am currently waiting on a 17X11 rim to come in so I am running 17X9 at the moment and 275-section tires. I am also running without LCA relocation brackets so I am dealing with wheel hop (alot) on digs.

First races were 20 rolls and I started in 2nd (3.90 gears so not as bad as it sounds) because I knew the car would hop and spin all over the place in 1st. He started in first. He honked it and I punched it. He barely pulled at first (I nearly matched his pull in 1st gear 4000+ rpm with my car in 2nd @ 2500-3000 rpm). By the time I got to the top of 2nd gear I was 1.5 cars ahead, shifted into 3rd and put like 4-5 cars on him before I let out.

Did another 20 and same story only I took it to 150 MPH by then, I was Idk, 17 train lengths in front of him.

Did some digs and I aborted the first dig because of wheel hop. The second dig I left from Idle and spun but short shifted into 2nd and right when I was about to yank the paint off of his car he let out... Not even an 1/8th mile.


So when he gets his car back he wants to race and he says that cam only 4.6 2v's run in the low 12's and with his bolt ons + cams he will do 11's. I didn't lie and said my car should do low 12's high 11's if it hooks. He says he'll destroy me now since he "destroyed" me last time we did digs. I told him that if he gets a good start and I get a bad start, I'll be around him before the 1/4 mile. Video coming soon. Anyone think I'll get smoked in a 1/4?
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He has the little "2v that could". He told me he's beaten countless Coyote powered mustangs, Coyote + bolt ons, Corvettes.... I am not a 4.6 expert but I have some reservations about that because a fully bolted coyote (cobra jet manifold, TB, CAI, Headers and Full exhaust, and tune) gives me a run for my money.... I think I am going to look into a 2v swap.....
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This guy is either completely clueless or is simply messing with you lol. You wanna know how power cams added to my 04 gt...?? 15 rwhp. It made 285 rwhp...yes that's it lol
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lol @ 2v swap
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Good luck on your race. My brother in law has a full bolt on (every one possible) dyno tuned 2v, with gears. It is agonizingly slow it is a vert too. I hear they dont gain much from cams ether. In for vid
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Originally Posted by HCI2000SS
This guy is either completely clueless or is simply messing with you lol. You wanna know how power cams added to my 04 gt...?? 15 rwhp. It made 285 rwhp...yes that's it lol
This guy is either a full retard or he got cams and a 150 shot lol. You should anally rape him.
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Originally Posted by HCI2000SS
This guy is either completely clueless or is simply messing with you lol. You wanna know how power cams added to my 04 gt...?? 15 rwhp. It made 285 rwhp...yes that's it lol
Are the mod motors cammed that aggressive oe? Or does the engine just suck that bad?
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His cam specs and claims from the manufacture.

Specs: 234/230 duration, 111 lobe sep, .550/.500 lift - See more at: http://hitechmotorsport.com/index.ph....BsbUYQr4.dpuf


Light chop at idle, great driveability. No piston to valve issues.

Upgraded springs not required, but suggested for operation above 6400 RPM. These cams have often produced 300 RWHP and run 12 second 1/4 miles. - See more at: http://hitechmotorsport.com/index.ph....BsbUYQr4.dpuf
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Are the mod motors cammed that aggressive oe? Or does the engine just suck that bad?
The cam I had in there was just a medium sized one, and even with a full long tubes exhaust it only had a very small lope to it. 15-20 hp is very common with those cars, so yeah they do suck that bad when it comes to cams lol
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I almost bought those Hitech cams but went with VT instead. My buddy had them and made 292 rwhp IIRC
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Lmao beating a bolt on 5.0 and corvettes ?
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If he isnt putting close to 375-400 rwhp, he isn't going to have a chance. He said they are emailing him the dyno sheet, and if it isnt in that range, it's a waste of gas. My car makes around 400 rwhp and maybe 100 ibs heavier, and its a 6-speed and not a 4-speed (stock stall) auto.
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OP let me give you an example of how badly you will crush him lol...I actually raced a cammed LS1 that made just a touch over 400 rwhp with my cammed 04 gt on a 100 shot. I made right under 400 rwhp and 500 rwtq. Even with all that it was so close that it wasn't even funny lol. I did beat him by maybe a half car by 120 mph
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This is like a college wrestler picking on a little kid, it won't be worth your time.
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Originally Posted by HCI2000SS
OP let me give you an example of how badly you will crush him lol...I actually raced a cammed LS1 that made just a touch over 400 rwhp with my cammed 04 gt on a 100 shot. I made right under 400 rwhp and 500 rwtq. Even with all that it was so close that it wasn't even funny lol. I did beat him by maybe a half car by 120 mph
Ouch... N/A vs N20 and you barely pulled? Ouch. He isn't spraying. I want my tires and LCA relocation brackets and I'll do a 20 roll in 1st gear and depending on his power levels, I'll be gone. I gave him my cam only dyno (no exhaust) it read 372 and that was a conservative dyno @ 96 degrees! So when he gets his hopefully it'll do like 350 rwhp or so.
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Originally Posted by OneSlowV
Lmao beating a bolt on 5.0 and corvettes ?
I'd love to witness this too

The little 2v that could.
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He's wanting to bet me! like actual money!
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Originally Posted by 03_Z06
This is like a college wrestler picking on a little kid, it won't be worth your time.
It will be worth bringing his buddy down to earth. Maybe he'll decide it's time for a Coyote or LSX based setup...
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Originally Posted by nwilson44
He's wanting to bet me! like actual money!
Man some part of me hopes he's just drawing you into a trap, and will actually be spraying a 150 shot on a tire.
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Originally Posted by Red is Faster
Man some part of me hopes he's just drawing you into a trap, and will actually be spraying a 150 shot on a tire.
Well he's got some 75% worn 315-section NT555's. I'll bet him pending any lies about mods. I am 99% sure he is not spraying.


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