The real deal, LS3 vs COYOTE
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Coyotes do not care about NA... that is not where they excel... boost is...
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In a gutted rayce cah
Same motor though... not a completely different one that came from the factory.
Coyotes do not care about NA... that is not where they excel... boost is...
Factory **** is good enough from the factory.. no need to upgrade... throw some psi at it and let them eat.
Mappy in a mean mood today.
Here is a dyno sheet of a 93octane to E85 comparison same dyno/ same day... look at ALL that powah!!! This pretty much proves what I have been saying about the difference I feel between 93 and E85... which is not much at all. Let HioCrew butthurt commence.
Same motor though... not a completely different one that came from the factory.
Coyotes do not care about NA... that is not where they excel... boost is...
Factory **** is good enough from the factory.. no need to upgrade... throw some psi at it and let them eat.
Mappy in a mean mood today.
Here is a dyno sheet of a 93octane to E85 comparison same dyno/ same day... look at ALL that powah!!! This pretty much proves what I have been saying about the difference I feel between 93 and E85... which is not much at all. Let HioCrew butthurt commence.
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Only metric I care about is HP per crankshaft
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Wow, she's a torque monster!
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In a gutted rayce cah
Same motor though... not a completely different one that came from the factory.
Coyotes do not care about NA... that is not where they excel... boost is...
Factory **** is good enough from the factory.. no need to upgrade... throw some psi at it and let them eat.
Mappy in a mean mood today.
Here is a dyno sheet of a 93octane to E85 comparison same dyno/ same day... look at ALL that powah!!! This pretty much proves what I have been saying about the difference I feel between 93 and E85... which is not much at all. Let HioCrew butthurt commence.
Same motor though... not a completely different one that came from the factory.
Coyotes do not care about NA... that is not where they excel... boost is...
Factory **** is good enough from the factory.. no need to upgrade... throw some psi at it and let them eat.
Mappy in a mean mood today.
Here is a dyno sheet of a 93octane to E85 comparison same dyno/ same day... look at ALL that powah!!! This pretty much proves what I have been saying about the difference I feel between 93 and E85... which is not much at all. Let HioCrew butthurt commence.
Your e85 results may vary....although i would take e85 in my own car for a 10hp/12tq gain at the wheels. Looks like it elped extend the way the hp carries up top to by poppa graph. I always knew he was downplaying.
http://www.dfwmustangs.net/forums/sh...ighlight=manny
http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...ns-for-new-5-0
Likely better than poppa posted tho
A coyote comes from the factory na......it better care about na.
Hp per cylinder is one i like also.....neither of which the coyote wins.
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No, I posted the graph showing yall race gas haters that E85 doesnt gain that much.
Your e85 results may vary....although i would take e85 in my own car for a 10hp/12tq gain at the wheels. Looks like it elped extend the way the hp carries up top to by poppa graph. I always knew he was downplaying.
Nooo... thats not my car. Someone posted that on the m6g forums. I have already posted my dynosheet up. Or did you forget what my car made? I have not dynod the car on 93 yet.
http://www.dfwmustangs.net/forums/sh...ighlight=manny
http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...ns-for-new-5-0
Those links prove nothing tho. The graph I posted is pretty much EXACTLY how my car feels between 93 and E85. Yall choose not to believe me, which is fine. Doesn't matter to me.
Likely better than poppa posted tho
A coyote comes from the factory na......it better care about na.
Why care about NA when we want to go faster than NA can? Including GM NA?
Nooo... thats not my car. Someone posted that on the m6g forums. I have already posted my dynosheet up. Or did you forget what my car made? I have not dynod the car on 93 yet.
http://www.dfwmustangs.net/forums/sh...ighlight=manny
http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...ns-for-new-5-0
Those links prove nothing tho. The graph I posted is pretty much EXACTLY how my car feels between 93 and E85. Yall choose not to believe me, which is fine. Doesn't matter to me.
Likely better than poppa posted tho
A coyote comes from the factory na......it better care about na.
Why care about NA when we want to go faster than NA can? Including GM NA?
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That's the thing.....you're not gonna go faster than n/a gm can. You're only gonna go faster than na coyote can.
Those links are as valid as the dyno you posted.....more so really. I'm not tryin to down play it.
Those links are as valid as the dyno you posted.....more so really. I'm not tryin to down play it.
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5.0's on average will not do N/A builds because they cost so much and produce minimal numbers when compared to throwing boost at them.
5.0's have made 900who on the old 11-14 5.0 motors and ran 8s but the engines don't hold very long. Going over 650 is rough on stock engine without a perfect tune.
The newer 5.0 motors have made over 900whp and lasted so far.
If wanting to go N/A go LS all day. Your results will be better once you get passed simple bolt ons.
JPC still owns the record for fastest N/A 5.0 with some low 9 sec passes in a full purpose built track car.
Bolt on times is in the mid 10s now.
Boost is where the 5.0 shines.
Hell you can buy a new base model 5.0 with 727hp for 38k from 2 different dealers in the country.
5.0's have made 900who on the old 11-14 5.0 motors and ran 8s but the engines don't hold very long. Going over 650 is rough on stock engine without a perfect tune.
The newer 5.0 motors have made over 900whp and lasted so far.
If wanting to go N/A go LS all day. Your results will be better once you get passed simple bolt ons.
JPC still owns the record for fastest N/A 5.0 with some low 9 sec passes in a full purpose built track car.
Bolt on times is in the mid 10s now.
Boost is where the 5.0 shines.
Hell you can buy a new base model 5.0 with 727hp for 38k from 2 different dealers in the country.
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here is a stock block,head ls3 a6 vette making 730whp on 12lbs..would make way more with a cam designed for boost...
10 Second C6 Vette - Daily Driver - YouTube
10 Second C6 Vette - Daily Driver - YouTube