Cammed 5th gen vs stock 6th gen
08-05-2016, 08:53 PM
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08-06-2016, 07:30 AM
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08-06-2016, 07:49 AM
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520 isn't max effort at all. This guy did 527 with only a 23x cam, 91 octane, still spinning a p.s. pump, no ewp and on donks.
There is a easy 30hp left in it. More if you got serious. I could see a serious max effort cam only ls3 doin 600ish.
There is a easy 30hp left in it. More if you got serious. I could see a serious max effort cam only ls3 doin 600ish.
08-06-2016, 08:34 AM
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Hio I usually agree with your avid support of the 5th gen... But you're giving the LS3 wayyy too much credit here. 450whp bolt on, and 520+whp cam only LS3s are not something to be considered the norm. The vast majority of LS3s using off the shelf or custom grinds from any of the typical companies (BTR, Tick, Texas Speed) don't even touch 500whp.
Maybe with literally every single possible bolt on you can buy you can hit 450ish whp and then throw a big cam in and hit 520. Add in light weight drivetrain stuff which to eliminate a bit of power loss to the wheels and you'll get a little more. But I've hardly ever seen anyone do every single bolt on. It's not really cost effective.
Whoever is doing these "basic" 520whp cam only LS3s needs to contact me because I want one. I dont even see cammed LS7s doing more than 550-560 typically....
Maybe with literally every single possible bolt on you can buy you can hit 450ish whp and then throw a big cam in and hit 520. Add in light weight drivetrain stuff which to eliminate a bit of power loss to the wheels and you'll get a little more. But I've hardly ever seen anyone do every single bolt on. It's not really cost effective.
Whoever is doing these "basic" 520whp cam only LS3s needs to contact me because I want one. I dont even see cammed LS7s doing more than 550-560 typically....
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08-06-2016, 09:31 AM
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At a dyno day I saw 2 cammed M6 LS3 Camaros dyno. One made 465 and the other 470 something. I talked to the guy that made 465 and he said it had full bolt ons and a medium size cam. This was a dynojet dyno as well, and spits out very normal and typical numbers
08-06-2016, 12:08 PM
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My brother's LS3 Vette with BTR Stg 3 (or Stg 4, can't remember, slipping my mind at the moment) NA cam, Kooks 1 7/8 headers, 3" x-pipe, 3" catback, Vararam, stock intake manifold, stock heads made 490whp. Made that through a stalled auto as well.
08-06-2016, 01:17 PM
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Well.... G6x3 cam, Texas speed aftermarket casting cylinder heads, mls gaskets, 2 inch stainless works headers, 3 inch catless true dual with X , fast 102/102, CAI and 93 tune. Mine hit 505 rwhp.
Most I heard of on pump gas back when I was into 5th gens was about 530-540 rwhp. And some of those were g6x3 cammed cars so probably dyno differences. When I told the guy I was disappointed and looking for 530 rwhp after my tune he looked at me puzzled and said I had great numbers. He had never seen one over 530 rwhp on 93.
Not much left with my build other than ewp, cf driveshaft and e85. Could have went maybe a touch more compression on my gaskets but pushing it on 93.
I do know I've driven two new 6th gen autos and I know for certain I would leave one pretty bad with my h/c 2010. According to the comments in the vid the cam is small and he's missing a couple bolt ons. So looks about right IMO.
Most I heard of on pump gas back when I was into 5th gens was about 530-540 rwhp. And some of those were g6x3 cammed cars so probably dyno differences. When I told the guy I was disappointed and looking for 530 rwhp after my tune he looked at me puzzled and said I had great numbers. He had never seen one over 530 rwhp on 93.
Not much left with my build other than ewp, cf driveshaft and e85. Could have went maybe a touch more compression on my gaskets but pushing it on 93.
I do know I've driven two new 6th gen autos and I know for certain I would leave one pretty bad with my h/c 2010. According to the comments in the vid the cam is small and he's missing a couple bolt ons. So looks about right IMO.
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08-06-2016, 01:32 PM
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Hio I usually agree with your avid support of the 5th gen... But you're giving the LS3 wayyy too much credit here. 450whp bolt on, and 520+whp cam only LS3s are not something to be considered the norm. The vast majority of LS3s using off the shelf or custom grinds from any of the typical companies (BTR, Tick, Texas Speed) don't even touch 500whp.
Maybe with literally every single possible bolt on you can buy you can hit 450ish whp and then throw a big cam in and hit 520. Add in light weight drivetrain stuff which to eliminate a bit of power loss to the wheels and you'll get a little more. But I've hardly ever seen anyone do every single bolt on. It's not really cost effective.
Whoever is doing these "basic" 520whp cam only LS3s needs to contact me because I want one. I dont even see cammed LS7s doing more than 550-560 typically....
Maybe with literally every single possible bolt on you can buy you can hit 450ish whp and then throw a big cam in and hit 520. Add in light weight drivetrain stuff which to eliminate a bit of power loss to the wheels and you'll get a little more. But I've hardly ever seen anyone do every single bolt on. It's not really cost effective.
Whoever is doing these "basic" 520whp cam only LS3s needs to contact me because I want one. I dont even see cammed LS7s doing more than 550-560 typically....
Most do **** like ****. Look at all the cam only ls6's .....h/c ls1's that my bolt on ls6 makes more power than.
These guys struggling to make 550whp with a cammed ls7 should just give up.
It could have easily got to 470+.
In a m6 that's likely over 500whp. With plenty of room to gain power.
08-06-2016, 07:02 PM
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Yea....they're pretty cool. There are other intakes that are good too. Pretty much every cam only ls3 i see peaks at to low of rpm. If i cammed one i would br looking to spin it 7500~. Achieveing the power i said would be a none issue.
08-06-2016, 09:04 PM
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Well.... G6x3 cam, Texas speed aftermarket casting cylinder heads, mls gaskets, 2 inch stainless works headers, 3 inch catless true dual with X , fast 102/102, CAI and 93 tune. Mine hit 505 rwhp.
Most I heard of on pump gas back when I was into 5th gens was about 530-540 rwhp. And some of those were g6x3 cammed cars so probably dyno differences. When I told the guy I was disappointed and looking for 530 rwhp after my tune he looked at me puzzled and said I had great numbers. He had never seen one over 530 rwhp on 93.
Not much left with my build other than ewp, cf driveshaft and e85. Could have went maybe a touch more compression on my gaskets but pushing it on 93.
I do know I've driven two new 6th gen autos and I know for certain I would leave one pretty bad with my h/c 2010. According to the comments in the vid the cam is small and he's missing a couple bolt ons. So looks about right IMO.
Most I heard of on pump gas back when I was into 5th gens was about 530-540 rwhp. And some of those were g6x3 cammed cars so probably dyno differences. When I told the guy I was disappointed and looking for 530 rwhp after my tune he looked at me puzzled and said I had great numbers. He had never seen one over 530 rwhp on 93.
Not much left with my build other than ewp, cf driveshaft and e85. Could have went maybe a touch more compression on my gaskets but pushing it on 93.
I do know I've driven two new 6th gen autos and I know for certain I would leave one pretty bad with my h/c 2010. According to the comments in the vid the cam is small and he's missing a couple bolt ons. So looks about right IMO.