Street Racing & Kill Stories Basic Technical Questions & Advice

Stock 2016 Camaro SS vs Bolt-On 5.0

Old 03-12-2017, 09:06 PM
  #201  
12 Second Club
 
willys srt8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Everywhere
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Nick.H
Then why even take the car to the track??
It was opening night and I was hoping to see if any 6gs showed up to see how they did. Hardly anyone showed and I got bored. I had no intention of going down the track. It costed me the same to drive or to stand there so I went out. It was a bad idea.

Camaro Fest is at Bowling Green, KY which is about an hour from me. Maybe I'll try again there...
Old 03-12-2017, 09:11 PM
  #202  
Teching In
 
BlkMach1's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: S. Fla.
Posts: 36
Received 115 Likes on 87 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by ****** srt8
Pretty sure I said the track was located in Clarksville, TN. IDK the elevation but it was 36* and had just started snowing when I staged. I'm on summer tires so it was a terrible idea. My 4door SRT ran 8.3-8.5 rather consistently. I can't get traction with these street tires and I am too cheap to buy tires to play.
Elevation there is about 500ft with pretty cold temps so DA couldn't be terribly bad. I ran 8.4s in a makeshift NASCAR pit lane that opens once per month and isn't allowed to be prepped at 90mph in the bro.
Old 03-12-2017, 09:44 PM
  #203  
11 Second Club
 
Poppacapp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: NC
Posts: 67
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post

Default

Originally Posted by ****** srt8
It was opening night and I was hoping to see if any 6gs showed up to see how they did. Hardly anyone showed and I got bored. I had no intention of going down the track. It costed me the same to drive or to stand there so I went out. It was a bad idea.

Camaro Fest is at Bowling Green, KY which is about an hour from me. Maybe I'll try again there...
You just need to break down and get some radials man.... street tires are going to be disappointing every time. No traction makes for a bad day at the track.
Old 03-12-2017, 09:51 PM
  #204  
Banned
 
RedFuryZ28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Nebraska
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by JC316
Not exactly the full story now is it? First off a CAI/LT Header/Tune is a tick above LBO. Secondly automatics almost always have the advantage in a dig, the HC was pulling him on the top end. Thirdly, the guy in the HC needs driving lessons.
3 mods is definitely LOB. Let me guess that's FBO to you? The HC was driven fine. You're just looking for reasons to hate on the camero.
Old 03-12-2017, 09:54 PM
  #205  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (6)
 
marc97taws6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: DSM
Posts: 1,433
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

JC clearly hasn't learned any lessons from the handbook.

You can owner claim driver error to justify a loss if they own a GM vehicle.

All other brands of vehicles are immune from driver error.
Old 03-12-2017, 11:03 PM
  #206  
10 Second Club
iTrader: (8)
 
HioSSilver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Winchester, VA
Posts: 5,927
Received 412 Likes on 330 Posts

Default

2012 zl1 forced furd to revamp the gt100 for 2013 because it smoked all previous gt100s on it's first crack at it. Pretty impressive considering furd had5yrs under their belt of developing and producing gt100s.

Even then the inly way the 13 gt100 can compete isin a straight line
Old 03-13-2017, 04:28 AM
  #207  
Launching!
iTrader: (10)
 
sw07gt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 232
Received 41 Likes on 22 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by ****** srt8
It was opening night and I was hoping to see if any 6gs showed up to see how they did. Hardly anyone showed and I got bored. I had no intention of going down the track. It costed me the same to drive or to stand there so I went out. It was a bad idea.

Camaro Fest is at Bowling Green, KY which is about an hour from me. Maybe I'll try again there...
keep your eyes open next time you go to bowling Green. There's actually fast bros there.
Old 03-13-2017, 04:43 AM
  #208  
Teching In
 
BlkMach1's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: S. Fla.
Posts: 36
Received 115 Likes on 87 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by HioSSilver
2012 zl1 forced furd to revamp the gt100 for 2013 because it smoked all previous gt100s on it's first crack at it. Pretty impressive considering furd had5yrs under their belt of developing and producing gt100s.

Even then the inly way the 13 gt100 can compete isin a straight line

Yea first crack took them a decade.
Old 03-13-2017, 04:48 AM
  #209  
Banned
 
RedFuryZ28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Nebraska
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by BlkMach1
Yea first crack took them a decade.
You mean it took the GT a decade to compete with the camaro? Camaros from the 20th century.
Old 03-13-2017, 05:03 AM
  #210  
Teching In
 
BlkMach1's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: S. Fla.
Posts: 36
Received 115 Likes on 87 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by RedFuryZ28
You mean it took the GT a decade to compete with the camaro? Camaros from the 20th century.
Who put the catfish in the graveyard to begin with I wonder.
Old 03-13-2017, 07:57 AM
  #211  
Staging Lane
 
snake95's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Rent Free in Hio's Mind
Posts: 84
Likes: 0
Received 35 Likes on 30 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by HioSSilver
2012 zl1 forced furd to revamp the gt100 for 2013 because it smoked all previous gt100s on it's first crack at it. Pretty impressive considering furd had5yrs under their belt of developing and producing gt100s. Even then the inly way the 13 gt100 can compete isin a straight line
Yeah you used to say that more often but once that Nurburgring video got posted, you started stuttering and dancing at an alarming rate ZLOL1 got waxed.
Old 03-13-2017, 08:07 AM
  #212  
7 Second Club
 
islander033's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Crossfield, AB
Posts: 239
Received 313 Likes on 242 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by BlkMach1
Who put the catfish in the graveyard to begin with I wonder.
Catfish sales were dismal at best before it's death, then the terminator came out and finished it off.

Sis gen is what the fif gen should have been. We all would have been way further ahead as consumers if that happened.

PS. 2012 ZL1 > 2007 to 2009 GT500...2012 ZL = 2010 to 2012 GT500....2012 to 2014 ZL1 < 2013 to 2014 GT500

AND Fatcat > all ZL1 to date (A10 might change this)
Old 03-13-2017, 08:14 AM
  #213  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (55)
 
Mike Morris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Md/PA/FL
Posts: 1,602
Received 61 Likes on 50 Posts

Default

Terminator wasn't even same class as Catfish nor same time period. Catfish was killed by GM and was grossly out of date even by 01. The Ford Pony cars are long forgotten from that era unlike the Fbombs.
Old 03-13-2017, 08:17 AM
  #214  
7 Second Club
 
islander033's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Crossfield, AB
Posts: 239
Received 313 Likes on 242 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Mike Morris
Terminator wasn't even same class as Catfish nor same time period. Catfish was killed by GM and was grossly out of date even by 01. The Ford Pony cars are long forgotten from that era unlike the Fbombs.
How so?

PS. I agree that the terminator out classed the fbomb. Especially in performance and easy to mod.
Old 03-13-2017, 08:57 AM
  #215  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (55)
 
Mike Morris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Md/PA/FL
Posts: 1,602
Received 61 Likes on 50 Posts

Default

Compare a 98-02 Ford V8 Mustang anything to a F bomb from that period. F bomb vs a v8 Mustang even a current model is close. Compare a V8 Mustang from that era to a 5th gen or 6th gen and its a joke.

A terminator is a newer car with a power adder that cost much more. Not really a fair comparison. A Cobra from the same time period would get waxed.
Old 03-13-2017, 09:02 AM
  #216  
7 Second Club
 
islander033's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Crossfield, AB
Posts: 239
Received 313 Likes on 242 Posts

Default

2003 cobra actually came out at the end of 2002? and Fbomb was sold in 2002?

Sounds like same era to me.

RIP fbomb.
Old 03-13-2017, 09:30 AM
  #217  
Teching In
 
BlkMach1's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: S. Fla.
Posts: 36
Received 115 Likes on 87 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by islander033
Catfish sales were dismal at best before it's death, then the terminator came out and finished it off.

Sis gen is what the fif gen should have been. We all would have been way further ahead as consumers if that happened.

PS. 2012 ZL1 > 2007 to 2009 GT500...2012 ZL = 2010 to 2012 GT500....2012 to 2014 ZL1 < 2013 to 2014 GT500

AND Fatcat > all ZL1 to date (A10 might change this)
The test that was performed in which it ran 11.5 at 127 was the 10spd auto
Old 03-13-2017, 10:03 AM
  #218  
11 Second Club
 
Poppacapp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: NC
Posts: 67
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post

Default

Originally Posted by HioSSilver
2012 zl1 forced furd to revamp the gt100 for 2013 because it smoked all previous gt100s on it's first crack at it. Pretty impressive considering furd had5yrs under their belt of developing and producing gt100s.

Even then the inly way the 13 gt100 can compete isin a straight line
You are right!! When the 2012 ZL1 came out, Ford didn't have the 2013 GT500 already developed for a couple of years before release!! They had to modify the 2012 that year and came up with the 2013s within 6 months! Cool beans!












Dumbass.....
Old 03-13-2017, 10:04 AM
  #219  
Banned
 
RedFuryZ28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Nebraska
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by BlkMach1
The test that was performed in which it ran 11.5 at 127 was the 10spd auto
So significantly faster than you.
Old 03-13-2017, 10:21 AM
  #220  
Teching In
 
BlkMach1's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: S. Fla.
Posts: 36
Received 115 Likes on 87 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by RedFuryZ28
So significantly faster than you.
I likely put down more power than one, also have an auto and MTs. So unlikely.

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: Stock 2016 Camaro SS vs Bolt-On 5.0



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:29 PM.