2017 zl1 vs 2014 GT100
01-11-2017, 11:04 AM
#41
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01-11-2017, 12:09 PM
#42
I know what it means, I just like knowing where people stand on when the line crosses from great time for a stock car to "unbelievable"? Interesting topic IMO...
Is my 11.99 bone stock a hero time?
How about the stock time record time of 11.90?
01-11-2017, 02:49 PM
#44
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Not really a fair fight for the Ford boys since saying "GM" and not Chevy will include Cadillac...then it gets ugly.
GM
10s
C6 Z06
C6 ZR1
C7 Z06
11s
C6 (base + GS)
C7 (base + GS)
5th Gen ZL1 (I think?)
6th Gen SS
6th Gen ZL1
CTS-V2
CTS-V3
........
Ford
10s
?
11s
13+ GT500
New GT should be 10s or 11s pretty easy, old GT might've been 11s...idk, it's sexy either way....local one runs 13s every time though
10 speed 5.0 should be 11s pretty easy.
GM
10s
C6 Z06
C6 ZR1
C7 Z06
11s
C6 (base + GS)
C7 (base + GS)
5th Gen ZL1 (I think?)
6th Gen SS
6th Gen ZL1
CTS-V2
CTS-V3
........
Ford
10s
?
11s
13+ GT500
New GT should be 10s or 11s pretty easy, old GT might've been 11s...idk, it's sexy either way....local one runs 13s every time though
10 speed 5.0 should be 11s pretty easy.10speed 5br0 probably won't go 11s till they add power. Just the trans change won't get it there.
Old fgt tested about the same as a c6z....edge to c6z.
01-11-2017, 07:01 PM
#48
I would think ~30 hp gain.
460-470 hp and the 10 speed its gonna be a drivers race. DI will add needed torque as well. It may just outrun the SS. If the Camaro SS gets the 10 speed maybe it will still be a touch quicker. Who knows.
Im not expecting a power bump for the SS...GM never gives them anymore.
01-11-2017, 10:15 PM
#49
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The dual injection probably won't be on the n/a stuff. For sure the 5br0 could gain some power but if they make it any quicker it will outrun the gt350 like the 6gen does. I don't see them doing that.
Right now toyota is out 5br0ing the 5br0. The toyota 5br0 makes 471 hp.
The lt1 is a very mild engine. There would no doubt be room for a power bump there if needed. But they have the whole n/a field covered easily right now. Even if the others caught up it wouldn't be a big deal imo.
Right now toyota is out 5br0ing the 5br0. The toyota 5br0 makes 471 hp.
The lt1 is a very mild engine. There would no doubt be room for a power bump there if needed. But they have the whole n/a field covered easily right now. Even if the others caught up it wouldn't be a big deal imo.
01-12-2017, 04:13 PM
#51
TECH Enthusiast
Strong rumor of DI/PI setup coming to the 5.0
I would think ~30 hp gain.
460-470 hp and the 10 speed its gonna be a drivers race. DI will add needed torque as well. It may just outrun the SS. If the Camaro SS gets the 10 speed maybe it will still be a touch quicker. Who knows.
Im not expecting a power bump for the SS...GM never gives them anymore.
I would think ~30 hp gain.
460-470 hp and the 10 speed its gonna be a drivers race. DI will add needed torque as well. It may just outrun the SS. If the Camaro SS gets the 10 speed maybe it will still be a touch quicker. Who knows.
Im not expecting a power bump for the SS...GM never gives them anymore.
Direct-injected engines tend to have greater resistance to knock than those that are port-injected. The combination of both dual injection, and variable valve timing like that found on the Coyote, should permit a higher compression ratio than the Coyote’s respectable 11.0:1. With higher compression generally comes more power, meaning that the new 4.8L could well outperform the 5.0, despite its slightly smaller displacement.
union is advised of building a 4.8 for the truck only.
01-12-2017, 04:18 PM
#52
TECH Enthusiast
The dual injection probably won't be on the n/a stuff. For sure the 5br0 could gain some power but if they make it any quicker it will outrun the gt350 like the 6gen does. I don't see them doing that.
Right now toyota is out 5br0ing the 5br0. The toyota 5br0 makes 471 hp.
The lt1 is a very mild engine. There would no doubt be room for a power bump there if needed. But they have the whole n/a field covered easily right now. Even if the others caught up it wouldn't be a big deal imo.
Right now toyota is out 5br0ing the 5br0. The toyota 5br0 makes 471 hp.
The lt1 is a very mild engine. There would no doubt be room for a power bump there if needed. But they have the whole n/a field covered easily right now. Even if the others caught up it wouldn't be a big deal imo.
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An all-new second-generation 2.7-liter EcoBoost engine features advanced dual port and direct injection technology, reduced internal friction and improved robustness – all for improved levels of output, efficiency, quality and durability. Like the 3.5-liter EcoBoost, the 2.7-liter EcoBoost will be paired to the segment-exclusive 10-speed automatic transmission for 2018.
The 5.0-liter V8 also sees improvements in 2018, as the naturally aspirated engine features significant upgrades for increased power and torque. It’s also paired with the 10-speed automatic transmission for the first time.
The 2018 F-150 also adds an available all-new 3.0-liter Power Stroke diesel engine, designed, engineered and tested in-house and paired with the 10-speed automatic transmission. It’s the first-ever diesel engine offered for F-150.
01-13-2017, 08:27 AM
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01-13-2017, 08:50 AM
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