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Old 03-03-2017, 01:55 PM   #61
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I stand corrected on oil pump issue. What is the reason it needs to be upgraded on power adder Mustangs? I have seen many na cars with it done
Has to do with piece of mind when pulling high rpm or vibration/harmonics while on a 2 step or banging the limiter.
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It has a VMP TVS and a small shot for special occasions.
No silly, what level power adder are you running in your gas tank?
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No silly, what level power adder are you running in your gas tank?
Oh...mah bad.

I'm on 93 oct toon. It goes faster than my RG toon for some reason.
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No I still think it's dumb to run FTW in bolt on cars. But I don't think it's a power adder. There's a difference.
Well....it is a oxgenated outside power source so power adder. It's shooting extra stuff in the cylinder just like nitrous.

One could run nitromethane to i suppose. By your standards not a power adder.
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Ford severly droped the ball with the 5.0s giving them the MT-82. No way Id go automatic on a muscle car.
5br0 decent. Just don't really break any barriors. The car around it is not much to right home about. The s197 isn't as good as a 4gen and the s550 isn't as good as a 5gen.
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It has a VMP TVS and a small shot for special occasions.
Double power adder ftw!
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Has to do with piece of mind when pulling high rpm or vibration/harmonics while on a 2 step or banging the limiter.
So it has to do with it eating it's self. That is your term i believe. I hope you don't mind me using it.
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All fuel is a power adder and no one truly has an NA car or no fuel is a power adder. You pick.
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So it has to do with it eating it's self. That is your term i believe. I hope you don't mind me using it.
Yes the OPG can break and eat itself under those conditions I mentioned.

Less common than GM motors eating themselves, and that's weird because at my track GM cars seem to race less than Ford cars.
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5.bros are mad that they can't get 50whp for a 350 bucks cam swap? I used to have a s550 fbo and cobra jet. Shelby manifold isn't a cheap item either.
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Basically 1400$ manifolds for the coyotes. And if you want cams get ready to pay 3k for cams and labor. Almost 5k
So a cam swap on a coyote is 3k, but on a LS car its $350? So you don't need any springs or pushrods with your $350 cam? Also I can get NSR intake from L&M for my car for $825 and put them in myself and gain 20whp.
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So a cam swap on a coyote is 3k, but on a LS car its $350? So you don't need any springs or pushrods with your $350 cam? Also I can get NSR intake from L&M for my car for $825 and put them in myself and gain 20whp.
He was inflating one side and down playing the other side. Weird huh?

Notice how he won't say what RPM he pulls with his cam only LS3? I'm starting to think that he doesn't know...
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Not the same. FTW is heavily oxygenated. FTW is a power adder

Tune on 5.0 is similar to mild cam swap. Adjustment of both intake and exhaust valve Extended rpm range. Sweet cause it gains more initially not sweet cuz gain less from actual swap and pay twice as much.

All in all these cars are similarly modded. As expected if the ls3 is proper. It will have far more hp and tq than any bolt on coyote. Good vid.
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All the so called chevy fans or unbiased to the rescue yet again.

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**** like this is why I had to quit being a GM guy. Fuel power adders and tunes = camp swap.

What in the actual ****?
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So a cam swap on a coyote is 3k, but on a LS car its $350? So you don't need any springs or pushrods with your $350 cam? Also I can get NSR intake from L&M for my car for $825 and put them in myself and gain 20whp.
I already stated I spent about 750ish with cam and supporting mods for the swap. Still way cheaper than camming a coyote.
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Not the same. FTW is heavily oxygenated. FTW is a power adder

Tune on 5.0 is similar to mild cam swap. Adjustment of both intake and exhaust valve Extended rpm range. Sweet cause it gains more initially not sweet cuz gain less from actual swap and pay twice as much.

All in all these cars are similarly modded. As expected if the ls3 is proper. It will have far more hp and tq than any bolt on coyote. Good vid.
So you consider any oxygenated fuel a power adder?

Are you mad at all VVT motors or just the coyotah?
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I'll be sure to let local cai/tune L99 5G guy know that he is in fact cam only.
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I already stated I spent about 750ish with cam and supporting mods for the swap. Still way cheaper than camming a coyote.
Do you pull 6500 rpm?
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I already stated I spent about 750ish with cam and supporting mods for the swap. Still way cheaper than camming a coyote.
Oh its cheaper, no argument there. If you do the work yourself, the difference isn't as much as everyone thinks it is. I can get a comp cam set for $1500 or I can get Intake cams for $825 that give 20whp and don't require any other mods. Your car runs good, good runs, been to the track yet?
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So you consider any oxygenated fuel a power adder?

Are you mad at all VVT motors or just the coyotah?
No I didn't say that. When it's 40 bucks a gallon and heavily oxygenated for the purpose of adding more power. It's a power adder.

Not mad at anything. Not the same as the valve timing available to the lt1. The timing can be advanced that's it. Which does nothing to bolt on car. Coyote full adjustment. Hence more gains from tune. Less from actual swap. No hate just facts.
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So you're saying fuel is like any other power adder then right? Different sizes or jets. 87 is like a little baby T28 turbo but FTW is like a promod 94. Right?
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