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iTrader: (14)

lol... that's a stretch! LT1 ***** all over those cars.

HioSSilver

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Lol....yea we all know better than that ****. Outran countless #s of those things.

14.0@100 puts it .5 and 8 mph off my stock run in august heat.

The fact is furd had a lawsuit against them because those piles under performed so bad. Thats the facts. Remember mm runs at hero tracks....or he used to. Now watch this.......lol

Hey mm whats a hero run in fcars at your tracks since you mentioned the hero cobros?

More fact is that if mm thought they were so great he would have one of those instead of his camaro.

JC316

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That was the 99.

Mike Morris

iTrader: (55)

That was the fail known as the 99 Cobra

HioSSilver

iTrader: (8)

Same ****** junk


Now answer the question mm

Mike Morris

iTrader: (55)

What fbombs? I have never seen an LT1 anything go faster than mid 13s. I have seen 4 pre 99 Cobras do it.
An LS1 was newer and easier to go fast than the 96-98 Cobra. But that doesn't mean they suck. They were faster than an LT1 Fbomb

HioSSilver

iTrader: (8)

They were about even up with lt1 cars. Edge to lts as mods were applied

Never seen anyone run near mag times with that junk at my track stock. It took hero tracks like yours.

Besides you already said they could go mid 13s and lts could go mid 13s at your track. Your gonna gonna even have the hard core furd guys calling bs if you try to say those things are faster than mid 13s stock

And you're the one that posted a ls test vs those turds. So again....at your tracks how much faster was the ls than the cobro junk?

Mike Morris

iTrader: (55)

https://www.svtperformance.com/forum...-96-98.338353/


I know Mike Smith who lives near Phil.. I saw him do a lot(13.3 at Capital and a 13.1 at Cecil)which was crazy at 105mph...he never got out of third gear. Do a search on LS1.com. He outran many Ls1s from that board back in 1998,1999. He beat me in a few LT1s cars with me driving them. I could kick his *** down low but top end he would get me. In fact he outran me in other stock Cobras that were not even his eeeck!!
In fact I have it on VHS tape(Cecil runs against LS1.com guys going low 13s at 107 108).
Bob Cosby went 13.4s. Jerry Green went 13.4s. Mike Svinky 13.3s. Barry Shepard 13,4s. I am not sure what Evan Smith went but I do know he was not thrilled about Mike Smith going faster than he. Like I said it was common back then. For some reason the 98s were faster. I seen those cars with bolt ons run mid 12s too. Tons of them. They are mfer to ET with stock.
If Tyler doesn't sell his and you can get BASF paint without taking out a mortgage I will show you how mid 12s is not hard to do. Best thing is 410s exhaust and 8 psi with one on a built 8.8. 11 second car and don't powershift it.

Mike Morris

iTrader: (55)

Read up goofball. In fact you read Mustang mags so you probably know all of these guys including N20 Pete who went 13.5 in one. He had a Mystic like Tyler. "Modfather" went 13.6 at 75/80 too.

http://www.mustangandfords.com/featu...a-jerry-green/

https://www.svtperformance.com/forum...modding.94348/

http://forums.corral.net/forums/svt-...een-1-4-a.html

http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=911154


Not as slow as people think. Yes like a Coyote they are gutless but with forced induction and lot of gear they can move out.

HioSSilver

iTrader: (8)

I have read up on them. Best of all was the real life results i seen not in -2k da at the fastest tracks in the country.


Now.....one more time. Whats the hero times at your track for ls stuff? Even lt1 ss stuff........finish proving me right.

Hondas can move out with forced induction. Not really a accalaide man. More if.....this thing is a turd unless you shove more air in it than it can suck in on its own.

Oh wait.....they would spit their glass rods out at anything near 450whp to

HioSSilver

iTrader: (8)

Do you realize that quickly flipping through your links none of the bolt on cobros beat your bolt on ls1? Not even the one that was considered not streetable

The best ones barely nudged nathans et but were 2-3 mph down. And he didn't have headers ......or slicks

Don't talk this na cobra **** to me.

abbas461

iTrader: (55)

that cobra run 13.7 1/4 mile
still 95 SLP firehawk faster !

i like 2otl exhaust

Mike Morris

iTrader: (55)

I seen 13.0s for LS1s and 107-108. The LS fbomb is faster and easier to make faster as I said. It is newer too. I am just showing the Cobra is faster and no slouch even with bolt ons vs the LT1 which was the original topic. LT1 doesn't live long at 450RWHP either. Those damn ringlands.


Not all of those Cobras were east coast tracks. The car got a bad rap from Superfly in the mags which ran mid 12s with heads cam(YACK and lost to Jerry Green with bolt ons)) but did hit 11s. Again LS1 is superior but LT1 stock was behind.

2003Cobro

Mike hes in denial this ruins his whole narative. Hero times only count when its for LS cars and his car.

HioSSilver

iTrader: (8)

The only denial here 2003cobro. At best the na 4v is a match for the lt1.....at best. Once past bolt ons it's not even that.


Lots of engines live past 450hp with those pistons mm

NateLS1Mustang

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​​​​​​​But bawlt-awns are lyfe? Or nah?

JC316

iTrader: (1)

Not the same, not even close.

HioSSilver

iTrader: (8)

They are close enough to the same to be the same. Maybe 10whp difference. Some say that's due to a improvement in the lower intake.

99 cars had irs....the other dohc 4.suck cars didn't. Again....not anything goin on there to make this drastic difference. Even after the "fix" 99 cars were turds.

Bawlt-awns are bawlt-awns nate. Either car is faster with or w/o bawlt-awns than what you have going on.

big hammer

I'd have a hard time believing even 13.9 from a stock sn95 cobra

5.7stroker

iTrader: (36)

Not really the same **** at all unless you mean that they both didn't use forged rods/pistons. The 99 cobra did have a recall due to less power.
They were coming in at 265-270hp, not the 320 hp that was claimed. The recall consisted of a new lower intake, new catback, and computer re-flash. After the recalls, people were reporting 290hp, which is still shy of the a-advertised 320. Long tubes and midpipe was needed to finally bring them to 320.

Back then it didn't matter though, because I had the 99GT and saved myself 10 grand over getting the recalled Cobra. Bolt on's, tires, and a 100 shot and I was running 11.7's all day on that weak *** 2v. Cobra recall or not...stock 99 4th gens, I was pulling bus lengths on both of them. No problems until I ran into modified 99 4th gens.

Ford having the 96-98 GT's putting out 220 hp was a joke. LT1's ate those cars alive. It wasn't until 03 that Ford finally got it half way right.