snake95

So then big hammer had a lot of chips on his shoulder since he created several 302 v 305 threads?

Thanks, I edited my post above, you should be able to see it now. Peak tq is 349 @ 5210.

RedFuryZ28

Holy ****, awesome numbers, Snake! That thing must be in the 9's now?

codyvette

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Hio, Do you have a legitimate reason for making the same points over and over and over and over and...... to the same people that are never going to listen? I just don't get it. That doesn't make the 302 a bad motor. I picked up a very nice looking Fox when I was younger and broker for $1500 with a 302. It had an "x" cam (whatever the hell that means LOL), long tube headers, a Holley 650 DP, and probably the shittiest 302 heads possible. I got cheap because he couldn't make it rev past 3k. He thought it was the carburetor. Nope, it was the valve springs. Anyhow, a friend built me a cheap *** C4 and I bought a cheap *** street fighter converter. It would go a 12.80 all day with a front left tire lift. The chance of that happening with a 305 Camaro out of someone's yard would have been slim and none. That's probably still my favorite racecar to date. Anything can be made fast and or faster. I just wouldn't see the point with a 305 except in stock eliminator.

HioSSilver

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Peak tq at 5200 is getting up there. No readon in the world a 305 couldn't do that or better with a similar build.

A 12.8 pulling the left front........so you're really gonna tell me it pulled the left front to only run a 12.8 and you think a 305 at the same weight coul5have did that......mmmmkkkkkk

It really didn't have much power or it woulda likely went faster than 12.8 leaving that hard. Although i have seen 3v leave pulling the left tire to run a 13.0

It's already been established by hotrod mag in their recent shoot out that the 305 made more power.

Now lets talk about full bulds. With being able to put a 6" rod in a 305 a 30poo may never be able to outpower it. Be very interesting to see full on builds and their power curves from both engines. Especially since we've already established the 305 has better bottom and mid range.

89BANDIT

Snake, You consider maybe a Procharger D1SC? Or a Vortech or Paxton. 302's really wake up with 8-12pd's. And are really fun. Short Stroke and the Fire'ing order = Really good sound. With the right Exhaust of course.

Same goes for the LB9. Mine had a Procharger, Built 700 with 2600 stall, 373's, Full exhaust, every bolt on imaginable, Ported intake w SLP runners, 500 lift cam, And whatever else I can't remember at this time. But it ran Great on the street. The LTR's of the TPI with the bOOst made it nearly impossible (at the time) to get her to hook. But off the line it was OUT! The Some Biotch Murdered alot of high $$$ cars light to light. Thing sounded like a built high compression 434sbc. Guess because it was over cammed, with the charger. But the exhaust note was intimidating for sure!

codyvette

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I see now it's because you have a hard time seeing one's point. I never said the 305 won't make as much/more power. It is super easy to go from a 305 to a 350. It isn't as easy to go from a 302 to a 351 (though not hard by any means). That's the MAIN reason for the lopsidedness. Yes, I'm sure I could have got much more MPH and much less ET with the 302 I had if I had not sold it to my dad and him sell it for three times the price. If I had found a nice third gen with a 305 for $1500, threw a TH350 in it and a street fighter converter it still would have been a turd because nobody would have previously cammed it.They would have put a 350 in it like any other person with 1/2 oz of snap.

HioSSilver

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Yea....that's what most would do.


He had no point. There was no point to see.

Now i made some pretty valid points. Notice that was plural.

codyvette

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You made points (plural) yes, just no valid ones.

snake95

When it boils down to it, dug is so embarrassed by the 305 that he's gotta bring up what they do in submarines and parade floats.

HioSSilver

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They were very valid.

Until a engine only gets built for one application i consider all the applications it was applied to so i can determine it's worth. I'm not sided or closed minded like you.

codyvette

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You have said just as much dumb **** about the subject than him. Just because one can make more power than the other (neither of you know which because no one with enough money to find out gives a flying ****) doesn't make it a better engine. Neither will ever make as much power as a BBC,BBF, or Hemi(the real ones). That doesn't make them better, just better at one application or another. Narrow minded, dipshit ways of thinking like that is why you two make constant *** clowns of yourselves for no reason.

P.S. Sorry, I just call it how I see it. LOL!

HioSSilver

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To call it like it is you would have to look in the mirror and say dumbass.

codyvette

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Most on here would look at your responses to my posts and they would say Dumbass but it wouldn't be to me. While you have a lot of knowledge to offer you waste so much time acting like a childish crybaby, most of it gets missed. Snake has the same problem. Y'all should be secret pals.

snake95

This is sig material.

NateLS1Mustang

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All applications as in just torque?

HioSSilver

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I'm not crying about anything. Merely pointing out facts they care to dismiss.

Do you ever say anything that makes any sense at all?