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Old 01-25-2018, 03:56 PM
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They're not as easy as most cars to drive. People who ran them in stock form were running on a street tire, in a stick car with a cable clutch, and a PD blower, and most of these people were probably inexperienced drivers. Add all that up and it makes for a bad ET with a halfway decent trap. Some people have them figured out and they fly
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Originally Posted by Nick.H
They're not as easy as most cars to drive. People who ran them in stock form were running on a street tire, in a stick car with a cable clutch, and a PD blower, and most of these people were probably inexperienced drivers. Add all that up and it makes for a bad ET with a halfway decent trap. Some people have them figured out and they fly
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Originally Posted by deviate42
back in 2004 you could spend $3K-4K and upgrade the blower to whipple or KB with a KB 'boost a pump' and make 600-650whp/600wtq with pump gas and have a reliable setup.

600whp gets most of these cars trapping 127-133+mph in the 1/4. Which could tear up about 99% of anything on the street.

That is why they have a reputation if you didn't know.
i know this is a old poast, but i have a comment about the awesome termi......a termi uses a run of the mill 03-04 romeo 2v iron block.....a 2v iron block suffers car walk making 650rwhp or more long term....ALL of the termis in my mustang club in TN making more than 500rwhp had either head gasket failures, piston faiures, bearing failures, cap walk, etc.

so my definition of 'reliable' is different than yours.

imo, using a run of the mill 2v block is not optimal for long term reliability.

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At what point do you have to worry about main caps walk on the factory 2 bolt system.
The 2V blocks are essentially the same as the 4v 03/04 Cobra block, long story short the cross bolted and deep skirt design of the modular block easily allows these things to make 1000+ with no appreciable cap walk when used with ARP main studs.
so just throwing a blower on a terminator and making the power it is capable of, is not reliable at all.


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Old 01-25-2018, 10:43 PM
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Yea there was a thread on svt that stopped at 75 pages of blown up ones. 4 blew up in my area one year.

We put better pistons in mine, upgraded the oil pump, polished/chamfered the crank and used new bolts thru out. Sometimes i wish i would have studded it but i didn't plan on blower swapping it.
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....and a built motor. Lol
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Exactly on the terminator. Tons of them in Md blew up. Very overated car but they still go for big bucks
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Originally Posted by Mike Morris
Exactly on the terminator. Tons of them in Md blew up. ....
WOT in 5th isn't smart without extra cooling mods.
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Originally Posted by assasinator
i know this is a old poast, but i have a comment about the awesome termi......a termi uses a run of the mill 03-04 romeo 2v iron block.....a 2v iron block suffers car walk making 650rwhp or more long term....ALL of the termis in my mustang club in TN making more than 500rwhp had either head gasket failures, piston faiures, bearing failures, cap walk, etc.

so my definition of 'reliable' is different than yours.

imo, using a run of the mill 2v block is not optimal for long term reliability.

so just throwing a blower on a terminator and making the power it is capable of, is not reliable at all.

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I had no idea that all the 500+whp Cobras you have seen have had engine failure. Man that is just crazy to think! Mine should have blown up a long time ago! And my black 04 cobra before that. Also the shop that I use in Houston, it should be flooded with Cobra’s that have pullies and ported blowers since they just can’t take the bolt on’s!! I mean there are probably 10 cars for sale right now on Svtp with bolton’s Or blower swaps, some with high mileage that appear to self destruct devices at any moment

Now you are making me sound like a complete worshiper and nut swinger of Cobras which I am not. They have weak links, more often it is not the block, crank, rods, it is pistons. running 700hp or higher and not on a cooler burning fuel like e85, IMO you are rolling the dice with the heat.
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Deviate, what did your cobro run?
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Originally Posted by Nick.H
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I love the lena Dunham thing lmao
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Originally Posted by CyberGrey Z28
Deviate, what did your cobro run?
Haven’t run it at the track since I put the 2.9 on.

Last I was at the track I still had a KB 2.2 running about 640whp and I was seeing 11.4’s - 11.8’s 124-128mph.

I know I should be A lot faster with that power but Before you eat my lunch - I never ran the car hard. I was on hard street tires cutting 2.0-2.2 60 ft’s shifting in slow mo. The owner before more really beat on the car and I was worried about the trans but that was back when but now it has a t56magnum, gforce axles, new diff/gears. It’s ready to rip
Then I got slicks skinnies setup but before I could run it decided to cut out the kids play on power and I have a shop in Houston building the motor as we speak. Doing high compression, ported heads, and turning up the whipple. Fingers crossed but the whole setup should be up and running by end of feb in time for tx2k.
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Originally Posted by deviate42
I had no idea that all the 500+whp Cobras you have seen have had engine failure. Man that is just crazy to think! Mine should have blown up a long time ago! And my black 04 cobra before that. Also the shop that I use in Houston, it should be flooded with Cobra’s that have pullies and ported blowers since they just can’t take the bolt on’s!! I mean there are probably 10 cars for sale right now on Svtp with bolton’s Or blower swaps, some with high mileage that appear to self destruct devices at any moment

Now you are making me sound like a complete worshiper and nut swinger of Cobras which I am not. They have weak links, more often it is not the block, crank, rods, it is pistons. running 700hp or higher and not on a cooler burning fuel like e85, IMO you are rolling the dice with the heat.
I was thinking the same thing lol, I have tons of track passes on my stock longblock and it has no issue at all. I love driving an hour to the track, running mid 10s, and driving her home. Honestly, the ones that probably are going to have the problems these days are the low mileage ones that are rarely driven.
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Originally Posted by SS EATR
I was thinking the same thing lol, I have tons of track passes on my stock longblock and it has no issue at all. I love driving an hour to the track, running mid 10s, and driving her home. Honestly, the ones that probably are going to have the problems these days are the low mileage ones that are rarely driven.
This is funny stuff. 600rwhp cobras blowing up. My cobra has been pullied since it was 2000miles old. And over 600rwhp for about 18k. If the tune is good the car will be fine. Plenty of guys on SVTP with 600rwhp for a decade. Because of the older computer and lack of knock sensors a bad tune can melt **** really quick. They are easy to mess up in that way. Plus everyone in the world wants max power on max boost on pump gas. You live life on the ragged edge and sometimes **** goes wrong.
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Originally Posted by 2003Cobro
This is funny stuff. 600rwhp cobras blowing up. My cobra has been pullied since it was 2000miles old. And over 600rwhp for about 18k. If the tune is good the car will be fine. Plenty of guys on SVTP with 600rwhp for a decade. Because of the older computer and lack of knock sensors a bad tune can melt **** really quick. They are easy to mess up in that way. Plus everyone in the world wants max power on max boost on pump gas. You live life on the ragged edge and sometimes **** goes wrong.
Lmao that right there proves how RETARDED Ford really is. Neglecting to put knock sensors on a boosted engine. What ****** idiots. No wonder you drive one.
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Originally Posted by RedFuryZ28
Lmao that right there proves how RETARDED Ford really is. Neglecting to put knock sensors on a boosted engine. What ****** idiots. No wonder you drive one.
Youre the last one to ever call someone an idiot. Hell idk why you even speak on here after getting destroyed by that 4.6 2v mustang gt
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Originally Posted by "MAC"
Youre the last one to ever call someone an idiot. Hell idk why you even speak on here after getting destroyed by that 4.6 2v mustang gt
Says the dumbass who thinks a 6k lb pickup should get the same gas mileage as a vette. I think someone actually tried to make you that stupid.



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