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Old 11-15-2017, 10:09 AM
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this race would be from a 40 roll

1984 Camaro z28
built LT1 383 stroker with ported heads/race vlaves
custom grind 236/240 112 Lsa
1.6 rr , racing springs to match cam, hardened pushrods
3000 stall with built trans
hardlined plate nitrous 100-200 shot w/ 58mm throttle body
50/50 race suspension for a strip

2015 GTR premium
full exhaust,chip,intake

Who would win?
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What kind of power are both setups making? Both full weight vehicles?
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What fuel is the GTR on?

Here are a few pump gas examples:

10.596sec @ 129.12 mph jason427
1.568 60' (NIS006); 1/8th = 6.816 @ 103.72 mph;
Cobb AP + AMS Catless DP, Boostlogic Res MP + 93oct. +
Topspeed Tuned + only 900 mi.

10.601 sec @ 132.40 mph - Owner CHURCH
1.656 60' (LC5) 1/8th = 6.827@103.25 ; Pickup = 29 mph - SLIP
2013 Cobb Self Tuned and AAM Midpipe 93oct

10.613sec @ 130.10 mph Hardware 01
1.627 60' (Ecutek); 1/8th = 6.820 @ 103.56 mph; Pickup = 26.54 mph
MidPipe and Downpipes, all else stock, Linney Tuned Ecutek

E85 is a whole other level...

10.003sec @ 137.61mph sleepdoc
1.456 60' (NIS006); 1/8th = 6.409@108.25mph; Pickup = 29.36mph
Cobb SF Intake + Catless Exhaust (Kreissieg DPs, HKS ResMP, HKS Catback) + Fuel System
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60' 1.515 (Cobb NIS 006) 1/8 6.454 @ 109.24mph; Pickup = 28.58mph
AAM Intake + Full Exhaust w/ DPs + Actuator + Fuel System
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the GTR is running 91. and the lt1 is on 93
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the camaro weighs a little less than 3000 and the gtr is like 3850 or something i think
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If the Camaro is on the 200 shot it should be tight race if I had to guess.
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Depends on the size of the chip in the Mustang.
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Originally Posted by AnotherWs6
Depends on the size of the chip in the Mustang.
I thought "Chip" was the guys name..
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Have you ran the 3G at the track?
Have you ever ran the car on the bottle?
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If the turd gen hooks, someone will need to call 911.
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Originally Posted by CyberGrey Z28
Have you ran the 3G at the track?
Have you ever ran the car on the bottle?
motor is being dropped into the car right now... just wanted to get some thoughts on it. some kid with the gtr wants to race when its finished and broke in .
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Really depends on how proper your setup ends up being. GTR is going to be no joke and you really cant **** up driving it.
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Originally Posted by T.Man
If the turd gen hooks, someone will need to call 911.
Yeah. You should get winner in the CohlBoltz! No trouble hooking in that thing..
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Originally Posted by 89BANDIT
Yeah. You should get winner in the CohlBoltz! No trouble hooking in that thing..
The post meant that he is going to completely wipe the floor with the GTR, pending traction. Not surprised to see your ignorant *** couldn't figure that out.


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I actually know what you meant. Was just poking some fun. It's extremely funny for you to call me Ignorant! LMAO!!!! Thats Great!

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Originally Posted by Joe Soucy
motor is being dropped into the car right now... just wanted to get some thoughts on it. some kid with the gtr wants to race when its finished and broke in .
Take it to the track first and dial it in. Too many guys claiming high HP but they're really 12 sec cars lol.

Those GTRs are way too consistent and easy to race. Good luck!!
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Yeah those GTR's are extremely consistent from what I've seen as well. At the track a bone stock 2014 was running several 11.1-11.2 at 120-121 every single time. I actually ran him on freeway back home and it was basically dead even from like 50-120. Of course I wasn't spraying though
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tuned they are quick and consistent!
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Shouldn't even be a race???

3rd gens are tin cans, and even the worst built LT1 383 will be at least 500hp with that cam and even entry level heads. More likely 550. Add a 200 shot, a stalled auto, and drag suspension and he is most likely comfortably in the mid to high 9s. An I/E/chip only GTR won't have a chance(620hp or so?).

We are talking 700-800lbs lighter car with ~100 more hp in a drag prepped stalled auto. I know we like to make fun of third gens since their stock motors are trash, but the platform makes for a GREAT drag car. Extremely light and massive aftermarket available.

Of course dialing in a 200 shot on a car that light won't be a one day thing, so it may take a few trips of practice to get the nitrous to ramp in effectively to run the times it should. I would NEVER race someone on a brand new combo if its a race for money or that you really want to win.
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^ You are Def a bit Optimistic on the power levels of the LT1. I've owned a couple of them. 550HP easy? Not really! And yes, some thirdgens are tin cans. I'm sure the ones in your Neighborhood are anyway. But a nice 88-92 car, in the right shape is not. L98 SBC's can make great platfoms for strokers or just a 30 over with the right H/C/I ect, Has limitless potential. Like any other 350ci SBC. You are right about it being a lighter, better drag platform. Aftermarket is HUGE these days for them. Especially chassis components. But on the other hand, this 84 Camaro most likely is a tin can. On stock old worn out suspension. If he cant dial in the car correctly. The GTR will easliy out launch him, and he will never catch up. Or, the OP's car can be a beast! And Perfectly tuned and dialed in. And a really nice car. In that case, I still think a 9sec et would be a stretch!

All this is IMHO Only!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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