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Originally Posted by OneSlowV View Post
All motor 5.0 cars for you guys cars with motor swaps to . Shaun has ran a 10.13 @133 in his s550 he does have intake only cams though .

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so cam only coyotah slower than bolt on ones and slower than a cam only ls1. Sounds about right.

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Well whatever you put in it its entirely up to you......but dont make false claims that you're a bolt on car. its a motor swapped, built trans, built rear with some fancy "nascar" gears. If cory had a Gen 2 or Gen 3 coyote motor in his S197 you'd be saying its motor swapped, because guess what??? It ******* is!

Yes my bone stock S550 just like it came out of the dealer ran a 13.0 at 109 with a 2.15 60ft...so what? You think Im supposed to be ashamed because of that? LOL Hiollary you's a fool.
yea it's a bolt on engine. Get over it. I have another one to. Bolt on ls6 would be faster in a vette.

so a 13sec stock 5br0. Sounds about right to me. Slower than a stock 5gen tho.

idk what it takes to put a gen2 coyotah in a s197 5br0 chassis. Maybe you can inform us. Yes a gen3 woukd be a swap. They are different enough with di and a ci change to warrent that and probably needing a harness to run 2 sets of injectors.

You know what a ls1 car needs to accept a ls6? Nothing......nothing at all other than the oil pan and pick up tube. I even ran it on the ls1 tune. #replacement

never ran it with the nascar gears. You know the fancy used ones that cost like $160 shipped. Not uncommon for hotrods to have upgraded transmissions....besides i guess you should call cory out on his complete trans swap at this point. You know....just to keep things fair.

hopefully i straightened this up a bit before you ruin prays thread with dumbass accusations.

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8s for na 5.0 is fastest on list.wow
like 1sec off the fastest na ls......that's wow
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Old 09-25-2018, 07:39 PM
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Just as I expected yours is bolt on but coyote it’s a swap. Well I guess by that standard my car is bolt on too. Everything went on by bolts and easier than an engine swap. Good talk.
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Well I'm not saying the coyote couldn't be bolt on in that chassis. I only stated the difference in a swap vs a replacement. Since you don't work on cars i can see where you would struggle with the reasoning of it.

so....what's it take to put a gen2 coyotah where a gen1 is? You never answered.....you just cried.

i can tell you what it takes to put a ls7 where a ls1 was. It's a swap but a mild one......like very mild.

a new lt would be more involved.
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An s197 with 10 speed and gen 3. And Light weight reduction woukd fly
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A local guy has already put a gen 3 in a gen 2 car. Lots of guys run Gen 2 motors in gen 1 cars if/when they hurt their motors. It’s no biggie.

If you were so badass and ls1 so good you should stuck to it and made it fast.

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An s197 with 10 speed and gen 3. And Light weight reduction woukd fly
probably so.

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A local guy hasnít already put a gen 3 in a gen 2 car. Lots of guys run Gen 2 motors in gen 1 cars if/when they hurt their motors. Itís no biggie.

If you were so badass and ls1 so good you should stuck to it and made it fast.
well i did help a friend make his ls1 go 11.9 w/o headers. But phil hurt my ls1. Seems alot of you stay hurt over the ls6.

well what's it take to change a ge1 to gen2? I know people can do it....you could swap a diesel in it if you wanted.
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Gen 2 motor longblock, reuse your gen 1 timing parts and cams.
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Ok...so pretty significant changes. Not like putting a ls6 where a ls1 was. Which only required changing the oil pan and pick up tube so it fits the 4gen chassis.
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Everything bro’s do is significant for you. Go back to your LS1 and go 10s on bolt ons. Like you expect out of bro’s.
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From what I've seen it's not to be expected and still have much of a car around you for the "bro's"

but yea changing you cams and chains are pretty significant for ANY engine. Definitely not sealed then......lol
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver View Post
From what I've seen it's not to be expected and still have much of a car around you for the "bro's"

but yea changing you cams and chains are pretty significant for ANY engine. Definitely not sealed then......lol
A swap is a swap donít matter what model ls family it is and cams and chain is easy to do .
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You’re actually using less aggressive gen1 cams. Like I said put a stock sealed LS1 and go fast.
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When one engine goes in place of another engine with no changes it's a replacement.

cams in a 5br0 is a pita. Heard many say that. On top of that now you're mixing and matching cams to different model engines. Be no different than a ls6 cam in a ls1....or a ls7 cam in a ls3.
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Originally Posted by BlkMach1 View Post
You mean engine swapped like yourself...
Internal mods too. None of the CrewNN can get on any bolt on list.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver View Post
When one engine goes in place of another engine with no changes it's a replacement.

cams in a 5br0 is a pita. Heard many say that. On top of that now you're mixing and matching cams to different model engines. Be no different than a ls6 cam in a ls1....or a ls7 cam in a ls3.
So when I buy a s197 and buy a gen 3 5.0 long block and bolts right in then itís not a swap then is it ? Just bolt in from your experience?
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So put vette engine in body its replacement.

Put mustang engine in mustang it is a swap.

Hmmm.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver View Post
so cam only coyotah slower than bolt on ones and slower than a cam only ls1. Sounds about right.



yea it's a bolt on engine. Get over it. I have another one to. Bolt on ls6 would be faster in a vette.

so a 13sec stock 5br0. Sounds about right to me. Slower than a stock 5gen tho.

idk what it takes to put a gen2 coyotah in a s197 5br0 chassis. Maybe you can inform us. Yes a gen3 woukd be a swap. They are different enough with di and a ci change to warrent that and probably needing a harness to run 2 sets of injectors.

You know what a ls1 car needs to accept a ls6? Nothing......nothing at all other than the oil pan and pick up tube. I even ran it on the ls1 tune. #replacement

never ran it with the nascar gears. You know the fancy used ones that cost like $160 shipped. Not uncommon for hotrods to have upgraded transmissions....besides i guess you should call cory out on his complete trans swap at this point. You know....just to keep things fair.

hopefully i straightened this up a bit before you ruin prays thread with dumbass accusations.


like 1sec off the fastest na ls......that's wow
1sec of 1sec off h/c cars? Of wait you mean those na cars that are fully built short blocks like hammA. With 500cu in engines. Lol

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Originally Posted by ohioborn80 View Post
So put vette engine in body its replacement.

Put mustang engine in mustang it is a swap.

Hmmm.
Wasn't it like 25% or something that came with the LS6 block in 02 ? I know that those blocks didn't come with the 243 heads but still.

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Originally Posted by ohioborn80 View Post
8s for na 5.0 is fastest on list.wow
ls been 7ís Na
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I have seen some stock 02s with LS6 blocks. Its worth a tad more power but weaker.
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