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Never towed with v10. Dads tbi 454 is a turd empty like slowest one I've ever seen for some reason. But it pulls a enclosed trailer remarkably well.
thing about the ls trucks is it's easy to put tq in them. Headers, 1.8 or 1.9 rockers, port the tb and open the intake opening up to tb size and you just put a fair amount of power across the entire rpm range.
Originally Posted by OneSlowV
Grown man **** is what I’ve pulled with and a lot more than you can dream of . But I appreciate the paragraph you typed it to me it means a lot ��
so no experience with pick ups. That's all you had to say since that is the topic.
Last edited by HioSSilver; 10-19-2018 at 08:06 AM.
I tow with a V10 ram, don't cry to me about fuel economy. Pure towing is 7.5MPG....
My 2013 max tow package 6.2L was no better than that. It may have been worse. It was pretty shitty while towing. lol
My dmax really is the best truck I've ever owned, even if the china back up camera is in 240 for resolution. (can't see ****)
PS. Hio - the maintenance over the last 3 years on my dmax is barely worse than any gas truck I've run. I've recently deleted it so no more DEF **** too.
Never towed with v10. Dads tbi 454 is a turd empty like slowest one I've ever seen for some reason. But it pulls a enclosed trailer remarkably well.
thing about the ls trucks is it's easy to put tq in them. Headers, 1.8 or 1.9 rockers, port the tb and open the intake opening up to tb size and you just put a fair amount of power across the entire rpm range.
so no experience with pick ups. That's all you had to say since that is the topic.
You asked me what I’ve pulled with a whole lot more than you have ever done little guy . And experience lmao ? You know you could always get cdl plenty of people hiring inexperienced idiots like you i mean after all you do need a job 👍
You guys and truck motors the ford 4.6 , 5.4 and the GM 4.8 and 5.3 were complete gutless wonders no power at all lol . You have to get in the ecoboost or 6.2 if you want any sort of power for pulling or having fun lol
I do agree that they are under powered for heavy towing but not terrible for mild duty. I get 14mpg with a 219k mile 5.3 towing my boat. I'm probably going to get the HO 5.3 long block from ATK engines for 2800.00 that has 380hp 400ft lbs one of these days. My issue with the 6.0 is that its so damn thirsty.
I do agree that they are under powered for heavy towing but not terrible for mild duty. I get 14mpg with a 219k mile 5.3 towing my boat. I'm probably going to get the HO 5.3 long block from ATK engines for 2800.00 that has 380hp 400ft lbs one of these days. My issue with the 6.0 is that its so damn thirsty.
i can see a light duty truck pulling a smaller boat no problem . But based on my pulling 5k lbs plus with one truck is to light and squats way to much . East Texas roads are **** and idk about most guys on here I don’t wanna be doing 45mph when the speed limit is almost double of that now days . Nice rig btw
My RAM pulled the 6gen and trailer like it was nothing... Got pretty good mpgz too. Maybe 15 or 16 average? I wouldn't be afraid to put a lot more on it.
Never towed with v10. Dads tbi 454 is a turd empty like slowest one I've ever seen for some reason. But it pulls a enclosed trailer remarkably well.
thing about the ls trucks is it's easy to put tq in them. Headers, 1.8 or 1.9 rockers, port the tb and open the intake opening up to tb size and you just put a fair amount of power across the entire rpm range.
so no experience with pick ups. That's all you had to say since that is the topic.
The V10 is the same way, feels slow, but pulls great. The V10 was neutered by and for the 47RE, because it's right at the limit of the transmissions max torque in bone stock condition, and you can tell they designed the 47RE for the cummins. Can't tow in OD, 3rd gear has a converter lockup, and it tries it's damnedest to under 2K RPM, trying to spool a turbo that ain't there. When I was a kid, we would take a vacation to colorado in an RV. 37 Foot motorhome pulling an S10 4x4 blazer in colorado altitude with a 454 4bbl, putting out 230HP/385TQ and a turbo 400 trans. That thing was a TURD, it would do 75 on flat ground, but get it on a hill... WOT 25-30MPH max.
Originally Posted by islander033
My 2013 max tow package 6.2L was no better than that. It may have been worse. It was pretty shitty while towing. lol
My dmax really is the best truck I've ever owned, even if the china back up camera is in 240 for resolution. (can't see ****)
PS. Hio - the maintenance over the last 3 years on my dmax is barely worse than any gas truck I've run. I've recently deleted it so no more DEF **** too.
Damn, didn't think anything would be that dismal. I've been burned by every diesel I ever owned. 6.5L left me walking due to bad wiring, 6.0L left me walking due to everything, even a 24V cummins had the freeze plugs rust out.
Originally Posted by ZNix
My RAM pulled the 6gen and trailer like it was nothing... Got pretty good mpgz too. Maybe 15 or 16 average? I wouldn't be afraid to put a lot more on it.
What year and type of ram? I always found the 04-14's squatted real bad with any kind of weight on it, needed airbags to pull safely. The hemi always did OK under 7K. Pulled my 94 Impala SS on an 18ft all steel car hauler with one.
My RAM pulled the 6gen and trailer like it was nothing... Got pretty good mpgz too. Maybe 15 or 16 average? I wouldn't be afraid to put a lot more on it.
The V10 is the same way, feels slow, but pulls great. The V10 was neutered by and for the 47RE, because it's right at the limit of the transmissions max torque in bone stock condition, and you can tell they designed the 47RE for the cummins. Can't tow in OD, 3rd gear has a converter lockup, and it tries it's damnedest to under 2K RPM, trying to spool a turbo that ain't there. When I was a kid, we would take a vacation to colorado in an RV. 37 Foot motorhome pulling an S10 4x4 blazer in colorado altitude with a 454 4bbl, putting out 230HP/385TQ and a turbo 400 trans. That thing was a TURD, it would do 75 on flat ground, but get it on a hill... WOT 25-30MPH max.
Damn, didn't think anything would be that dismal. I've been burned by every diesel I ever owned. 6.5L left me walking due to bad wiring, 6.0L left me walking due to everything, even a 24V cummins had the freeze plugs rust out.
What year and type of ram? I always found the 04-14's squatted real bad with any kind of weight on it, needed airbags to pull safely. The hemi always did OK under 7K. Pulled my 94 Impala SS on an 18ft all steel car hauler with one.
2018. 3.21 gears. Was pretty much level with the front.
Originally Posted by islander033
How far did you pull?
Around 180 miles or so through the mountains of NH. It did very well. Will be on a 400 mile trip coming up!
Islander erryone knows the maintenance on a diesel is more. It's offset my being better on fuel. Not sure if spending 1k+ to delete is the epitome of efficiency......although i do applaud it.
Originally Posted by OneSlowV
You asked me what I’ve pulled with a whole lot more than you have ever done little guy . And experience lmao ? You know you could always get cdl plenty of people hiring inexperienced idiots like you i mean after all you do need a job 👍
dude.....if they give you a cdl they will give one to anybody.
again...you only showed your lack od perience with a pick up.
Originally Posted by kinglt-1
I do agree that they are under powered for heavy towing but not terrible for mild duty. I get 14mpg with a 219k mile 5.3 towing my boat. I'm probably going to get the HO 5.3 long block from ATK engines for 2800.00 that has 380hp 400ft lbs one of these days. My issue with the 6.0 is that its so damn thirsty.
6.0s are thirsty in the 2500. I think they are much better in the 1500.
Originally Posted by OneSlowV
i can see a light duty truck pulling a smaller boat no problem . But based on my pulling 5k lbs plus with one truck is to light and squats way to much . East Texas roads are **** and idk about most guys on here I don’t wanna be doing 45mph when the speed limit is almost double of that now days . Nice rig btw
there are these leveling thingys you can put on a hitch to well....level thingys. With all that perience i thought you woulda known this.
Islander erryone knows the maintenance on a diesel is more. It's offset my being better on fuel. Not sure if spending 1k+ to delete is the epitome of efficiency......although i do applaud it.
dude.....if they give you a cdl they will give one to anybody.
again...you only showed your lack od perience with a pick up.
6.0s are thirsty in the 2500. I think they are much better in the 1500.
there are these leveling thingys you can put on a hitch to well....level thingys. With all that perience i thought you woulda known this.
You talking about sway bars or air bags ether way you a dumb sob . ps all of my trucks have ran air bags to level the truck out better . I’ve seem plenty of 1500 style trucks In the ditch even with the weight Distribution system . Those trucks are to light for anything heavy I rest my case
Islander erryone knows the maintenance on a diesel is more. It's offset my being better on fuel. Not sure if spending 1k+ to delete is the epitome of efficiency......although i do applaud it.....
3L of oil extra every oil change every 6000 miles and add DEF once in awhile when not deleted. Yes it is more but not crazy more.
Originally Posted by sw07gt
I had a 3.5 EcoBoost f150. Best pulling gas truck I have ever experienced.
My 5.0L F150 pulled my junk to my north track just as good as my 6.2L chebby did, and did it with slightly better MPG. Both were shitty. lol
You talking about sway bars or air bags ether way you a dumb sob . ps all of my trucks have ran air bags to level the truck out better . I’ve seem plenty of 1500 style trucks In the ditch even with the weight Distribution system . Those trucks are to light for anything heavy I rest my case
i was talking about a load leveling hitch dumbass. Again exposing more if your lack of experience with pick ups.
sure you can still over load the system but that's not what we're goin after here. You can overload all trucks and cause failures.
Your case was rested when you opened your mouth and stupid came out.
Originally Posted by sw07gt
I had a 3.5 EcoBoost f150. Best pulling gas truck I have ever experienced.
I can see boost on a small engine being a good combo.
Originally Posted by islander033
3L of oil extra every oil change every 6000 miles and add DEF once in awhile when not deleted. Yes it is more but not crazy more.
My 5.0L F150 pulled my junk to my north track just as good as my 6.2L chebby did, and did it with slightly better MPG. Both were shitty. lol
The oil/fuel filters on the diesels are far more expensive than gas engines also.
I highly doubt the 5br0 pulled as well as a 6.2. The tq curve is drastically different and in favor of the 6.2 for that type of work. Only way it would be even close was with much more gear in the 5br0 or it woukd down shift alot more.
I already mentioned that but yea. They just chose to ignore it.
Both diesel and gas have their merits. I just find it funny when people think you have to have the largest truck available to move **** around. My dad's the same way. Ain't never pulled anything anymore than a open car trailer and thinks nothing else can do it but a 3/4 ton or 1 ton.
Plus when crap breaks, it's significantly more expensive and difficult to replace. I HATED working on the 6.0L powerjoke.
Me too. What a clusterfuck,service bulletin and recall nightmare. And where does all that damn oil go??? What is so weird is I have read,known guys with last year of production ones and they never had any problems with theirs. Shame because prior motor was awesome and 6.4 was another POS,
The oil/fuel filters on the diesels are far more expensive than gas engines also.
I highly doubt the 5br0 pulled as well as a 6.2. The tq curve is drastically different and in favor of the 6.2 for that type of work. Only way it would be even close was with much more gear in the 5br0 or it woukd down shift alot more.
No, it's about the same. Only diff cost is the amount of oil.
It did and it did it slightly cheaper. I wasn't pleased when I ditched the f150 for my 6.2 max tow package and it didn't tow any better and it cost slightly more. wtf
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