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Old 10-13-2018, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by automach1 View Post
Well pulling it apart and installing a different set of 5.3 rods, arp hardware, etc... doesn't constitute as "stock motor".
That was just an example....and shows it's "modular" guys like Denmah and Frcefed86 have run SLBs and make some stupid power for $3-500, but the tune is right.
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Old 10-13-2018, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver View Post
You had a legit motor combo. You got rocked hard core like all while I'm still ******* with bolt ons.

but yea you would need a legit motor combo to run with me only with bolt ons. And the ls6 never got ran in it's best form. You would need a custom errythang to even attempt to run with a bolt on ls7.
My car at 3000lbs with a legit 5.8 build would put buses on your ~530whp "Bolton" car. The 4.6 I had was hurt. My old intake mani on a none hurt motor made 49x on pump.
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Kinda like how the 1993 camaro and a 2016 corvette have the same engine right? They are both LT1s.
No....
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Originally Posted by automach1 View Post
My car at 3000lbs with a legit 5.8 build would put buses on your ~530whp "Bolton" car. The 4.6 I had was hurt. My old intake mani on a none hurt motor made 49x on pump.
lol...and you just think it would.

what tq did that turd 4.6ux out out......lol. took a full build to only get to 490 with weak *** tq. Never left the high 11s either or did it even get to make a pass.

lol....still wanting to compare a full built 5.8 to bolt on junk. You would still loose. **** the pile you have now is only running cam only times.

Hows cam only modulars run? Like real modulars.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver View Post
lol...and you just think it would.

what tq did that turd 4.6ux out out......lol. took a full build to only get to 490 with weak *** tq. Never left the high 11s either or did it even get to make a pass.

lol....still wanting to compare a full built 5.8 to bolt on junk. You would still loose. **** the pile you have now is only running cam only times.

Hows cam only modulars run? Like real modulars.
No think needed. It would.

Avg power wins races. Wasn't a "full" build. Had 50+ on table with a more serious 4.6 combo.

No comparison it would be gap city. Hammer would probably be a decent run with his 388.

Been 9s with boltons. The pile I have now will gap you with a truck motor. Sad.
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Poppa ftw. F U poppa
Mikeh!

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Irrelevant to Hio’s argument.
Was just trying to clarify the LT1s limits etc. Have learned a decent amount about the motors since I got the Vette. Really is a sweet NA platform. Good head/cam setup can run 9's pretty easy.


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While you might as well do the pistons if going into the motor. Ive read from some in the know argue that it is the tight ring gap and that the stock pistons could handle well past 700 rwhp with re gapped rings.
Yeah I wouldn't be going into the motor, pulling pistons... regapping and putting them back in.. if they come out... top quality forged replacements are going back in. No reason not to.
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Old 10-14-2018, 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by automach1 View Post
No think needed. It would.

Avg power wins races. Wasn't a "full" build. Had 50+ on table with a more serious 4.6 combo.

No comparison it would be gap city. Hammer would probably be a decent run with his 388.

Been 9s with boltons. The pile I have now will gap you with a truck motor. Sad.
more lies from your dumbass. Look at it this way. If you coulda got it done na you would have. But you knew you couldn't. You proved that.
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Originally Posted by automach1 View Post
No....
Kinda bad when a vendor pops in to point out how dumb you are just saying....
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver View Post
more lies from your dumbass. Look at it this way. If you coulda got it done na you would have. But you knew you couldn't. You proved that.
No lies. 5.4 truck motor > LS7 swapped camero.

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Kinda bad when a vendor pops in to point out how dumb you are just saying....
Yea because being a vendor means so much lmao. Nice car btw. I am sure it is one well running Cavalier.
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With the new Coyote engines, do the spark plugs still break off in the cylinder heads like many of the Triton 5.4 and 4.6 were notorious for doing?

The very expensive repairs on the old mod-motor Ford junk, makes me very concerned about the new version of the mod-motor to point of not considering what seems to be a pretty cool Performance Pack 2 5.0 Mustang.

One friend spent $1,800 on getting the plugs done in his Triton 5.4 after all 8 broke.
A coworker spent $2,400 when two plugs (broke one in each head) on her 4.6 Mustang and the heads had to be pulled to remove the debris that lodged in the cylinder.
Another had an earlier 4.6 that blew several sparkplugs out of the cylinder heads and had an expensive out of place repair bill. It was like the heads had two or three threads. Definitely a moron or two was involved in designing the head.

In fairness, I know one person who was able to do a plug change on a 100,000 mile 5.4 without any issues.
Of course both cam phasers failed.


Just three of about a dozen sparkplug horrors stories friends and coworkers experienced from owning poorly designed and engineers Ford products.
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Never heard of that in coyotes.
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Some new Coyotes been dropping valves. Not sure why. Heard it is a cheap fix though.
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Originally Posted by automach1 View Post
Yea because being a vendor means so much lmao. Nice car btw. I am sure it is one well running Cavalier.
Runs real well for a cavalier I can take it to car shows and not have to worry about running over anyone in a crowd.....
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Originally Posted by Mike Morris View Post
Some new Coyotes been dropping valves. Not sure why. Heard it is a cheap fix though.
You are right, Ls swaps are getting pretty cheap
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Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
You are right, Ls swaps are getting pretty cheap
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Runs real well for a cavalier I can take it to car shows and not have to worry about running over anyone in a crowd.....
Oh you mean it doesn't make enough power to do anything. No wai.
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Originally Posted by automach1 View Post
Oh you mean it doesn't make enough power to do anything. No wai.
Weren't you the guy that had to have 1200hp to run an 11 sorry get you guys confused. Either way hats off to yah .....
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Originally Posted by Chris25 View Post
Weren't you the guy that had to have 1200hp to run an 11 sorry get you guys confused. Either way hats off to yah .....
You stay confused. You keep calling your Cavalier a GTO.
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Originally Posted by automach1 View Post
You stay confused. You keep calling your Cavalier a GTO.
Deflection noted...
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