TT Flop Gen 1LE vs 6th Gen ZL1 1LE
10-18-2018, 12:59 PM
#162
I wouldnt say a Mach beats both problem with the GTOs when they first came out is the people that owned them. Most where tossing shorty headers on it with a hot air intake and wondering why they ran terrible. Getting a GTO to 3500lbs isnt hard and at that weight with the power they have there not all that bad.
I beat an 07 GT500 with my LS2 GTO, shouldn't have, but I did. It was 103+ outside, so it was likely heat soaked.
10-18-2018, 03:12 PM
#166
This thing did. I was in Denver, so altitude was definitely a factor, but it was just like every other 5.3L truck I've driven, I was completely underwhelmed. Even trying to merge was a little scary.
10-18-2018, 03:25 PM
#167
TECH Regular
4.8 trucks are almost dangerous in merging traffic I've had two different ones. My 5.3 when it was brand new felt awesome in my 2010 truck but I sold it and got a 6.0 2500 extended cab flat bed 4x4 with 140k miles it felt **** slow put a different 6.0 in it and it was a total difference so from my experience a 4.8 5.3 6.0 truck is good but don't keep the oil changed religiously and they lose power quick. Nothing worse than the first 6.0 with iron heads those bitches broke exhaust bolts constantly and spark plug as too every motor has a few issues the first year of production but a new 5.3 truck runs better than my dad new Ford by a couple truck lengths
10-18-2018, 03:41 PM
#170
10-18-2018, 03:55 PM
#171
4.8 trucks are almost dangerous in merging traffic I've had two different ones. My 5.3 when it was brand new felt awesome in my 2010 truck but I sold it and got a 6.0 2500 extended cab flat bed 4x4 with 140k miles it felt **** slow put a different 6.0 in it and it was a total difference so from my experience a 4.8 5.3 6.0 truck is good but don't keep the oil changed religiously and they lose power quick. Nothing worse than the first 6.0 with iron heads those bitches broke exhaust bolts constantly and spark plug as too every motor has a few issues the first year of production but a new 5.3 truck runs better than my dad new Ford by a couple truck lengths
10-18-2018, 04:17 PM
#172
Teching In
I like the 6.0L GTOs. Really nice car!
I think the weight was always the biggest factor with them. On the other hand, they were well built cars with beautiful interiors. Made my Mustang interior look flimsy in comparison. I'd still own one in a heartbeat.
I think the weight was always the biggest factor with them. On the other hand, they were well built cars with beautiful interiors. Made my Mustang interior look flimsy in comparison. I'd still own one in a heartbeat.
10-18-2018, 08:34 PM
#174
7 Second Club
My 2013 6.2 chebby was horrible on fuel when towing, so bad it pushed me into getting a 2015 dmax. My dmax is a proper tow pig, I can't go back to gas now.
10-18-2018, 09:58 PM
#175
10 Second Club
iTrader: (8)
It's ******* hilarious you people think you need a 6.2 or ecoboost to tow with or even a diesel. The diesels are nice but none of that **** is a must unless you hauling really heavy.....which most don't. They ride around in their trucks 0empty. I've pulled **** with 305, 350, 400, 454, 460, v6 and pre dmax diesels. All of them pull average car trailer type **** fine. You get a 5.3 optioned right they pull good to, HO 5.3 with 4.10s was a pretty good runner.
10-18-2018, 10:36 PM
#176
you dumbass kids have no ******* clue. The mods were complete turds. Not even any hope of adding power to those pos. The 4.8/5.3 respond just like any other ls if you mod them.
It's ******* hilarious you people think you need a 6.2 or ecoboost to tow with or even a diesel. The diesels are nice but none of that **** is a must unless you hauling really heavy.....which most don't. They ride around in their trucks 0empty. I've pulled **** with 305, 350, 400, 454, 460, v6 and pre dmax diesels. All of them pull average car trailer type **** fine. You get a 5.3 optioned right they pull good to, HO 5.3 with 4.10s was a pretty good runner.
It's ******* hilarious you people think you need a 6.2 or ecoboost to tow with or even a diesel. The diesels are nice but none of that **** is a must unless you hauling really heavy.....which most don't. They ride around in their trucks 0empty. I've pulled **** with 305, 350, 400, 454, 460, v6 and pre dmax diesels. All of them pull average car trailer type **** fine. You get a 5.3 optioned right they pull good to, HO 5.3 with 4.10s was a pretty good runner.
10-18-2018, 11:07 PM
#178
10 Second Club
iTrader: (8)
^^^^just one more dumbass post from you.
Sorry clueless Doug if you are pulling under 5k lbs with any of the above than maybe they are sub par they are junk and to light for anything heavier . Diesel is really the only way to go with more wieght also those motors would be lucky to get 6 mpg pulling and no I don’t wanna pull a trailer and only be able to do 45-50 mph I like doing the speed limit . I can take a newer diesel and get 12-15 mpg pretty much double the mileage of any motor you just talked about .
This post shows exactly how clueless you are if you think you're gonna get 6mpg with the appropriate load on gas truck. Pretty much any gasser these days can maintain speed limits....hell even old ones typically do fine towing average car trailer ****.
I've listed all I've pulled with and you can throw dmaxs and 6.0 diesel furds in that. What have you pulled with? Likely next to nothing from the way you act.
Sure the diesels can pull more ...do it easier...get better mpg. Diesels also cost more for maintenance and are way more expensive to fix. The newer ones need def fluid and that a whole nother system to maintain. The intial buy in costs for a diesel is astronimical these days....typically about $10k.
But to think you have to have one to pull over 5k lb is asinine. I've pulled up to 16k lb with my 6.0 and over 10k lb more than i care to say. .....probably 60-70 times. It usually gets in the 9mpg range loaded like that. I find it funny peolle think they need the largest truck they can buy to tow relatively small ****. It got 10-11 pulling out to Indiana. Gets around 10 with a 5k loaded truck camper and pulling a jetski.
if your pulling a large enclosed trailer full of race car and race car stuff or a 30ft rv of some sort sure the diesels are more appropriate. But most don't. They ride around in them empty.
Sorry clueless Doug if you are pulling under 5k lbs with any of the above than maybe they are sub par they are junk and to light for anything heavier . Diesel is really the only way to go with more wieght also those motors would be lucky to get 6 mpg pulling and no I don’t wanna pull a trailer and only be able to do 45-50 mph I like doing the speed limit . I can take a newer diesel and get 12-15 mpg pretty much double the mileage of any motor you just talked about .
I've listed all I've pulled with and you can throw dmaxs and 6.0 diesel furds in that. What have you pulled with? Likely next to nothing from the way you act.
Sure the diesels can pull more ...do it easier...get better mpg. Diesels also cost more for maintenance and are way more expensive to fix. The newer ones need def fluid and that a whole nother system to maintain. The intial buy in costs for a diesel is astronimical these days....typically about $10k.
But to think you have to have one to pull over 5k lb is asinine. I've pulled up to 16k lb with my 6.0 and over 10k lb more than i care to say. .....probably 60-70 times. It usually gets in the 9mpg range loaded like that. I find it funny peolle think they need the largest truck they can buy to tow relatively small ****. It got 10-11 pulling out to Indiana. Gets around 10 with a 5k loaded truck camper and pulling a jetski.
if your pulling a large enclosed trailer full of race car and race car stuff or a 30ft rv of some sort sure the diesels are more appropriate. But most don't. They ride around in them empty.
Last edited by HioSSilver; 10-18-2018 at 11:12 PM.
10-19-2018, 12:22 AM
#179
^^^^just one more dumbass post from you.
This post shows exactly how clueless you are if you think you're gonna get 6mpg with the appropriate load on gas truck. Pretty much any gasser these days can maintain speed limits....hell even old ones typically do fine towing average car trailer ****.
I've listed all I've pulled with and you can throw dmaxs and 6.0 diesel furds in that. What have you pulled with? Likely next to nothing from the way you act.
Sure the diesels can pull more ...do it easier...get better mpg. Diesels also cost more for maintenance and are way more expensive to fix. The newer ones need def fluid and that a whole nother system to maintain. The intial buy in costs for a diesel is astronimical these days....typically about $10k.
But to think you have to have one to pull over 5k lb is asinine. I've pulled up to 16k lb with my 6.0 and over 10k lb more than i care to say. .....probably 60-70 times. It usually gets in the 9mpg range loaded like that. I find it funny peolle think they need the largest truck they can buy to tow relatively small ****. It got 10-11 pulling out to Indiana. Gets around 10 with a 5k loaded truck camper and pulling a jetski.
if your pulling a large enclosed trailer full of race car and race car stuff or a 30ft rv of some sort sure the diesels are more appropriate. But most don't. They ride around in them empty.
This post shows exactly how clueless you are if you think you're gonna get 6mpg with the appropriate load on gas truck. Pretty much any gasser these days can maintain speed limits....hell even old ones typically do fine towing average car trailer ****.
I've listed all I've pulled with and you can throw dmaxs and 6.0 diesel furds in that. What have you pulled with? Likely next to nothing from the way you act.
Sure the diesels can pull more ...do it easier...get better mpg. Diesels also cost more for maintenance and are way more expensive to fix. The newer ones need def fluid and that a whole nother system to maintain. The intial buy in costs for a diesel is astronimical these days....typically about $10k.
But to think you have to have one to pull over 5k lb is asinine. I've pulled up to 16k lb with my 6.0 and over 10k lb more than i care to say. .....probably 60-70 times. It usually gets in the 9mpg range loaded like that. I find it funny peolle think they need the largest truck they can buy to tow relatively small ****. It got 10-11 pulling out to Indiana. Gets around 10 with a 5k loaded truck camper and pulling a jetski.
if your pulling a large enclosed trailer full of race car and race car stuff or a 30ft rv of some sort sure the diesels are more appropriate. But most don't. They ride around in them empty.
10-19-2018, 12:56 AM
#180
you dumbass kids have no ******* clue. The mods were complete turds. Not even any hope of adding power to those pos. The 4.8/5.3 respond just like any other ls if you mod them.
It's ******* hilarious you people think you need a 6.2 or ecoboost to tow with or even a diesel. The diesels are nice but none of that **** is a must unless you hauling really heavy.....which most don't. They ride around in their trucks 0empty. I've pulled **** with 305, 350, 400, 454, 460, v6 and pre dmax diesels. All of them pull average car trailer type **** fine. You get a 5.3 optioned right they pull good to, HO 5.3 with 4.10s was a pretty good runner.
It's ******* hilarious you people think you need a 6.2 or ecoboost to tow with or even a diesel. The diesels are nice but none of that **** is a must unless you hauling really heavy.....which most don't. They ride around in their trucks 0empty. I've pulled **** with 305, 350, 400, 454, 460, v6 and pre dmax diesels. All of them pull average car trailer type **** fine. You get a 5.3 optioned right they pull good to, HO 5.3 with 4.10s was a pretty good runner.
