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Old 03-09-2019, 10:15 AM
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chevrolet has never, and will never produce a car like this. Ford has produced a number of cars like this for the street for anyone with the cash to buy one.

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ooops. 390hp 4.7 liter
  • Serial No. 1049
  • Eight-cylinder 90° vee pushrod engine, four twin-choke Weber carburetors, wet sump lubrication, 4736 cc (289 cubic inches), 390 hp at 7000 rpm.

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Dug says "we have had these rounds before and you lose" LMFAO!! dug everyone in this forum has watched me abuse you with 302 > 305 logic until the sun comes up. SBCs suck, people used them because GM littered up the world with those piles of ****.
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Originally Posted by assasinator
the first two overall wins were with 427s.

the second TWO overall wins were 289s stroked to 4.9 liters.

small block ford won LeMans. 1st place twice. small block chevy. never


hio research why those little small block fords won. look into the design.
Here's what i know about anything from furd that was worth a **** until pretty recently. Anything they made wasn't readily available. They would do one off **** for racing or very limited production **** that was basically nonexistent. I don't care about that ****. I care about what i can buy. Now show me a real production car furd made that won anything ******* significant.....non of those could even scavenge a class win at lemans.
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chevrolet has never, and will never produce a car like this. Ford has produced a number of cars like this for the street for anyone with the cash to buy one.
Because chevrolet was busy beating the pants off furd on the street in their production cars......which affects me far more.
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ooops. 390hp 4.7 liter
  • Serial No. 1049
  • Eight-cylinder 90° vee pushrod engine, four twin-choke Weber carburetors, wet sump lubrication, 4736 cc (289 cubic inches), 390 hp at 7000 rpm.

They were very exoctic cars for their day.
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Dug says "we have had these rounds before and you lose" LMFAO!! dug everyone in this forum has watched me abuse you with 302 > 305 logic until the sun comes up. SBCs suck, people used them because GM littered up the world with those piles of ****.
the 305 out power 302s. Hotrod did a recent test on this. Accept it....the worst part is you're dumbed down to using a 305 which was a smog engine to even compete. A 305 was never intended for performance.....and still out powered your 30p00.
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How did I end up in the kindergarten section of this forum?
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Noob guy? ^
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How did I end up in the kindergarten section of this forum?
I hear ya, man however it has been going on for so long now you just have to go with it. Actually, if you read some of it, it's hilarious. I was just in the other thread, and a couple of post had me rolling on the floor.
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Originally Posted by Kfxguy
How did I end up in the kindergarten section of this forum?
Awww you gonna taddle on us, you little sissy girl?
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Originally Posted by KOTS4ever
Awww you gonna taddle on us, you little sissy girl?

nah punk, I don’t need to taddle on anyone. You just reinforced what I said. Immature ****.
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Do something about it, you ***** *** bitch. I am the owner of you, sissy.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver

Because chevrolet was busy beating the pants off furd on the street in their production cars......which affects me far more.

They were very exoctic cars for their day.
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they were able to beat all aluminum 12 cylinder 4 liter Vees from ferarri weighing 2000lbs, while they weighted 2500.

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Dan Gurney's Eagle with took second place at Indy in 1968. Note the slide valve throttles for the Lucas fuel injection and the magneto ignition. The $14,000 engine made 535 HP at 7,800 RPM on 10% nitro for qualifying and slightly over 500 HP on straight alcohol. This comparable to the exotic DOHC Ford Indy V8s, only the Gurney engine was smaller, lighter, and much less expensive.

the most a small block ford could do. 500hp on methanol.

off the shelf rods and pistons. just hot rod parts and dan's pushrod heads.
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i am willing to bet few of you were alive to see this kind of car race.


4 cylinder 1250bhp 159 inch indycar OFFY.

i remember Bobby Unser's last win in a offy. 1975
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Originally Posted by KOTS4ever
Do something about it, you ***** *** bitch. I am the owner of you, sissy.
I can’t. Your just some random board warrior. And a horrible one at that. However, if you were standing here in front of me, you wouldn’t say that to my face. I’m sorry that you were mistreated as a child and bullied in school so you find some relief and revenge in cursing at people on the internet. If that’s what makes you feel better tough guy. I won’t stoop to your childish level and play your childish name calling games.
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Not getting as deep as you all but pretty Shure ol Carol Shelby had a small block Chevy in first (test) mule cobra too.

Dontov said no didn't want to compete with his own engine.
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4 years later old Zora dontov had a aluminum 427 zl-1 copo Camaro just dominating the streets. But don't get me wrong that 428 cobra jet was a bad mo-foer too. So was a 426 polarera. Every body was a player back then. Hell a Buick gs stage 2 455 was no slouch either......
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Hio if you have a 305 TPI and F car 350 TPI(the competition for the 302) you as well have to change the top end to go fast even if you stay n/a. The 302 is better in regards to the EEC(You can run cams with no tune unlike the GM twins),stock MAF were garbage on those unlike the Ford version,stock Injectors were terrible and unreliable as well as the rear end in those cars had to be changed for any assault into the 11 second zone. The manifolds sucked compared the factory headers on the Fords. The 87-92 cars had forged pistons and a decent crank which mean you could run 6psi of boost with one easy even with a stock tune. The fbombs no way kaboom. Mustang factory aftermarket parts were all over the place. GM ones not so much. What little they had was thanks to SLP and most of that was utter crap including the PROM. 30POOP was an easier motor to modify by far.
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Originally Posted by Mike Morris
Hio if you have a 305 TPI and F car 350 TPI(the competition for the 302) you as well have to change the top end to go fast even if you stay n/a. The 302 is better in regards to the EEC(You can run cams with no tune unlike the GM twins),stock MAF were garbage on those unlike the Ford version,stock Injectors were terrible and unreliable as well as the rear end in those cars had to be changed for any assault into the 11 second zone. The manifolds sucked compared the factory headers on the Fords. The 87-92 cars had forged pistons and a decent crank which mean you could run 6psi of boost with one easy even with a stock tune. The fbombs no way kaboom. Mustang factory aftermarket parts were all over the place. GM ones not so much. What little they had was thanks to SLP and most of that was utter crap including the PROM. 30POOP was an easier motor to modify by far.
ill agree with most of this, the mustang was better in regards to light mods but if you go far with both of them, far enough to where it’s still a comfortable street car, the abc was superior. Out the box the Ford did have better heads and the rear end was better too. I had a 3rd gen that laid hate on every fox body I came across. I no longer had tuned port, I had a mini ram with a haltech ecm. The factory gm computer was garbage. That car was a 10 second ride that i drove every day, had ac and power everything. 700r4 that I built. I put 447/479 down on the Dyno. On 555r’s and a 2.0 60ft it ran 11.40’s at 124mph. I made only one pass on the et drags and it went 10.88@128. I didn’t see any mustangs running that fast. There was only one that was close. He was trapping 125 on race gas. I ran pump premium.
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