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Old 03-29-2019, 07:32 AM
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Sorry dude.....and no i wasn't wrong. Just forgot the the smaller engine was the one that actually made more power than the larger one. Not a big deal unless your a harping bitch. Are you a harping bitch?
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Old 03-29-2019, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by snake95 View Post
No the 4.4s were dogs that leaked and couldn't stay on the road long enough to complete a 1/4 mile pass. Those motors were complete ******* junk. Idc if they ran 10s from the factory, they were a garbage design.
Better head bolt replacement pretty much fixed the head gasket leaking problem with them. GM eventually used longer stronger head bolts and the head gasket issue went away. But replacing them head bolts on the earlier models required pulling the motor from what I hear, and was a very pricey endeavor if paying someone to do it. So yeah I gotta agree with the earlier 4.4s were a pretty shitty deal.
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Originally Posted by spikestang View Post
I have a lc3 setting around, I got it out of a wrecked xlr-v, less than 500 miles on it. I want to swap it in a new edge, but it's hard to find swap info on that engine though.
Good deal man. If your 4.4 is an '04 or earlier model year, make sure to replace the head bolts with at least the '05 and later head bolts. GM started used longer stronger head bolts around '04 or '05 which fixed the head gasket leaking issue them 4.4s were notorious for.

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Yes and no. The 4.4L had a higher "rating" than the terminator, but the terminator was underrated and the N* was badly overrated. On the dyno, the 4.4L actually put down around 350-360RWP where the Terminator put down right around 370-380RWP. I always preferred the N* powerband to the B head cars. I drove a 98 Seville SLS and my sister drove a 94 Lincoln Mark VIII. The mark was a tick quicker, but I did have the 270HP N*.
I agree the terminator was obviously underrated, but its also obvious the 4.4 N* had a more power robbing drivetrain than the terminator. Also the two 4.4 versions of the N* were rated 26hp apart, not sure how much that differed on a dyno from the 443hp version being in the corvette Y-body platform and the 469hp version being in Caddy's sigma platform. No surprise their stock 1/4 mile times were quite close though typically being 12.7-13.1 & 111-112mph.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver View Post
Sorry dude.....and no i wasn't wrong. Just forgot the the smaller engine was the one that actually made more power than the larger one. Not a big deal unless your a harping bitch. Are you a harping bitch?
Considering that you never admit you're wrong, regardless of proof or how big the mistake, yeah, I think I am going to nitpick. The deal here is that it's a pretty significant change, they made the engine smaller in an attempt to make it stronger, Ford never had to do that, had it remained a 4.6L, it likely wouldn't have made the power of the smaller engine.

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I agree the terminator was obviously underrated, but its also obvious the 4.4 N* had a more power robbing drivetrain than the terminator. Also the two 4.4 versions of the N* were rated 26hp apart, not sure how much that differed on a dyno from the 443hp version being in the corvette Y-body platform and the 469hp version being in Caddy's sigma platform. No surprise their stock 1/4 mile times were quite close though typically being 12.7-13.1 & 111-112mph.
17% for the Cobra is pretty much the accepted standard, which means 450hp. The 6L80 is all over the map, but 22% is the consensus view, which means 450-460HP.
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So the termi is faster than the ls1 f bombs and so is the XLR v nice
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You nitpick because you have a vagina. That's what people with vaginas do. They nitpick for no reason and don't understand small mistakes that in the end make no real ******* difference all the while thinking they're better than anyone else all while not ever doing a damn thing except breathing.......that's you.

The 4.6 furds blew up plenty easy on their own. Furd shoulda did something but they didn't. Even the termi blew up after being revamped to be stronger.

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Old 03-29-2019, 02:10 PM
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So the termi is faster than the ls1 f bombs and so is the XLR v nice
And everything you have done is slower than fbombs with very mild mods.
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Wow who knew a 349rwhp 4k+ car was slower than another car with the same power weighing 500lbs less imagine that!
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Well we can throw you h/c fcar in there to....or have you forgot about it since it's at someone's shop rotting away.
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Oh you talking about the ws6 that has no oil pressure and is over heating and has a transmission issues yea if say that would cause a car to not run righy. Glad we can at least agree on that
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So it had all that wrong with it when you ran it or so it sounds. Stupid is as stupid does.........but you're a racer. You race, all 20 passes of tnt lol.
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No only transmission issues at the track then a few days later it had the other issues.
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But since you wanna talk track times post up your 10s slips
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They're posted in my thread i made after i went to the track.

Besides that you've seen them. All you've done is cry on them.
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Wow no proof
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But there is proof.....with one run on vid. It's in a thread. So yea the proof is there. So that was another lie on your part.
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Should be easy to post it up then. So why you struggling?
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There's a whole thread about it on here. Why would i post it again when there are several pages devoted to it snowflake?
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There's a damn firefight up in here. Enjoying the read. Thanks fellas.
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So no 10s slips ouch
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