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NoGo 04-07-2019 09:43 AM

WS6 vs. Gallardo
 
Haven't posted on here in a while, but figured you folks would get a kick out of this.

I was returning from a friend's house yesterday evening helping with his 800-900ish HP vette. I merged onto 495 in the Boston area, headed south, moved to the left lane, put the car in 6th and started my usually uneventful 90 minute drive home. A few miles into this, I was fidgeting with the radio when a blue Gallardo and white BMW blow by goofing off. Nothing special about the BMW - some sort of 3-series. First, this never happens where I am. The odds of me bumping into an aggressive exotic while I'm in the TA just doesn't happen. I think a lot of us always hope it happens - but it never does.

I put the car in 5th punched it up to 90 or so to close the gap and see if the lambo driver was willing to go. I was in the left lane, he was in the center. As I approached, I'm about a car back off his left quarter panel doing ~80 when he hits it. I drop to 3rd and hit it. Its a little chilly outside so the car spins....crap. Correct it, drop to 4th, car hooks up perfect. I immediately start pulling him in. The road isn't clear and we approach a corner. He gets out of it a little over 100 while still ahead, I do as well but the momentum carries me a few cars ahead. The road straightens out and opens up and I can tell he is going to hit from several cars back. It is what I always hope happens on a long drive - aggressive exotic ends up next to me on an open straight-away. This 2nd go should be a very clean run. I drop the car to 4th, and roll up again to about 80 mph. He stays back off my quarter panel. The weather is perfect for a 4th gear run. Too cold for 3rd, but perfect for a 4th, 80 to 130-ish or so run. I crack the passenger side window to try and listen for him hitting it. I can't hear shit over the supercharger bypass. He hits it about 2 cars back off my quarter panel. He is advancing with some authority - turns out Lambo's are fast, and I am starting to question whether or not this is going to go the way I expected it. I wait for him to get to about my door when I hit it - don't want any excuses on this one. The weight comes off the front of the TA suspension, boost goes to ~10 psi and I can tell the car is fast tonight. The lambo advance immediately stops about 1 car ahead and I decisively start to reel him in. I go by at about 110 and stay in it to the top of 4th (~130 ish). I have 3-5 cars on him at this point and I can see I am starting to really walk away. I briefly shift to 5th to continue the run, but have 2nd thoughts about getting up to some insane speed (which happens pretty quickly) - also, we are coming up one some cars so I get out of it, hit the breaks and the lambo flies by. He moves to the far right lane to move around the upcoming cars, punches it again and zips off weaving through the light traffic - no interest from me in doing that.

The lambo was peppy, but I expected it to be a little quicker. Once I was into boost, it looked like the lambo threw an anchor out the back. Beautiful car though.

TA is a D1-supercharger, home built kit, 383 all-bore engine. It runs around 700hp to wheel at about 14 psi. Its been in this trim as a reliable street monster since about 2004.

Mavn 04-07-2019 10:50 AM

No video ? This is worthless without video

snake95 04-07-2019 01:37 PM

Sounds like a blast, great run! Any pics of the TA?

Mike Morris 04-07-2019 01:38 PM

Nice run!! Great kill!

SoFla01SSLookinstok 04-07-2019 08:05 PM

That super car would prolly need some twins or something to give you a run. Cool write. Pics & info about you ride would be sweet.

FreedomSeeker 04-07-2019 11:34 PM


Originally Posted by Mavn (Post 20076722)
No video ? This is worthless without video

Kill stories are kill stories. I seen the video in my head

HioSSilver 04-08-2019 06:54 AM

Good run!

Kfxguy 04-08-2019 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by FreedomSeeker (Post 20077004)
Kill stories are kill stories. I seen the video in my head


I saw it too. lol

WisT02ws6 04-08-2019 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by snake95 (Post 20076781)
Any pics of the TA?

Also good kill.

R6cowboy 04-08-2019 09:45 AM

Very fun kill.

NoGo 04-08-2019 01:27 PM

I'd send pictures, but it is pretty underwhelming. The car looks bone stock. The only thing that looks like something may be hiding under the hood is that the front plate area has a screen mesh on it rather than a plate to feed the intercooler (pic below). Other than that, it looks like a stock pewter Trans Am leaving strips at 80 mph.

The power I make is no longer that impressive, but I think the longevity of the setup is a testament. The car has about 50k miles on it at this power level and has, so far, been a reliable street monster for the last 15 years.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/attachmen...0000000610.jpg

Engine Setup:
383 All-bore (APE Dry Sleeve)
ESP Blower Heads (LQ9 casting) 72cc
4.100 Bore, 3.622 Stroke
Diamond Pistons -26cc reliefs
8.25:1 Compression
Cometic Head Gaskets
Nitrated Stock Crank
Stock Rods (bronze bushed)
Custom Cam (222/230 114LSA ~580ish lift)

D1SC Supercharger
3.3 RR Pulley
SDCE 8 Rib drive system (7.25 crank)
ATI Superdamper Crank Pulley
Custom Front Mount Intercooler
ATI Race Bypass

Stock PCM
83 lb injectors
Duel In-Tank Walboro w/ Aeromotive regulator on stock rails

Dynatch LT Headers w/ Kooks High Velocity stacks
Stock Cat-back and exhaust tips (very quiet https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/sm...gr_stretch.gif )
....and a bunch of suspension stuff w/ the stock 10-bolt built-up by me.

Mike Morris 04-08-2019 02:56 PM

Very nice car and combo

SoFla01SSLookinstok 04-08-2019 03:14 PM

Appreciate info. Very cool setup & like the stock look. Also very much agree on reliability & longevity with a street car setup. Bringing with it close to 700hp. Awesome.

What rear gear ratio?

NoGo 04-10-2019 02:01 PM

Built 10-bolt (others whined too much) with 3.73 gears.

They stay together as long as you don't do a clutch dump on slicks. I run a Toyo R888r tire (or whatever the next in this series is) and it is sticky enough to hook 3rd without causing rear longevity issues.

SoFla01SSLookinstok 04-10-2019 02:10 PM

Nice!

HioSSilver 04-14-2019 12:58 PM

10bolts aren't as terrible as some think and from the aftermarket rearended cars ive rode in a 10bolt is certainly quieter. I'm a nvh freak. I hate something causing nvh issues. But these aftermarket rears can be tamed to near stock nvh levels. Just have to mount them in rubber bushings vs poly or rod ends.

Chris25 04-14-2019 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by HioSSilver (Post 20080252)
10bolts aren't as terrible as some think and from the aftermarket rearended cars ive rode in a 10bolt is certainly quieter. I'm a nvh freak. I hate something causing nvh issues. But these aftermarket rears can be tamed to near stock nvh levels. Just have to mount them in rubber bushings vs poly or rod ends.

I mean they are terrible when it comes to racing 10bolts are borrowed time lol

Mike Morris 04-14-2019 05:53 PM

Mine been fine since 2011. If I was a stick no way

Chris25 04-14-2019 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by Mike Morris (Post 20080430)
Mine been fine since 2011. If I was a stick no way

My formulas 10bolt lasted for years until I sold it but I have friends who have went through 5 a piece really is hit or miss. I can say I was never really confident in that rear lol

HioSSilver 04-14-2019 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by Chris25 (Post 20080427)
I mean they are terrible when it comes to racing 10bolts are borrowed time lol

I ran to 11.0s in mine with stick. The ring and pinion was fine but i kept busting axles. Then once i busted the ring and pinion testing my ignition cut i stuck the fab 9 in.......and chased nvh issues.

It's a shame gm didn't use a 8.5 10 bolt or a 12bolt on it oe. Those cars woukda been perfect in that era then.


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