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Old 04-13-2019, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Cole Curtis
I didnt know street races were ran in 10s 🤔
But I mean stock 18 GT are running 11.8s with the a10 right? They were some c5z stock doing 11.7s and 11.8s almost twenty years ago says something for how well the c5zs have held up I'd say. But yeah Bolton a10 to stock not gonna fair well but m6 to m6 Bolton to stock c5z drivers race for sure which says so much for the coyote
Again when has a c5z gone 10s stock? I know this is a biased forum but you can't compare a **** driver to a good driver and think and speak that's the norm.
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Originally Posted by Cole Curtis
I didnt know street races were ran in 10s 🤔
But I mean stock 18 GT are running 11.8s with the a10 right? They were some c5z stock doing 11.7s and 11.8s almost twenty years ago says something for how well the c5zs have held up I'd say. But yeah Bolton a10 to stock not gonna fair well but m6 to m6 Bolton to stock c5z drivers race for sure which says so much for the coyote
Crazy to think it took ford 20 years to figure it out but it took a 10 speed auto, high compression, direct injection engine to do it.
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Originally Posted by "MAC"
Again when has a c5z gone 10s stock? I know this is a biased forum but you can't compare a **** driver to a good driver and think and speak that's the norm.
Man reading comprehension is not your friend. I agreed with you... literally said that stock c5z to a Bolton auto coyote shouldn't end well for the c5z. I haven't seen any Bolton manual 18 coyotes doing much. Considering the best hero stock run I can find is 12.2 vs 11.78 from 15 years ago in c5z. I'd say man pedal vs man pedal stock to Bolton be a damn good race
PS I'd say tire technology has come quite a ways since 2002 too
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Solid bolt on c5z will just bitch slap bolt on coyotah cars of any year or trans. Been there done that with a ls6 in a car not as good as a c5z.
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Originally Posted by Cole Curtis
Man reading comprehension is not your friend. I agreed with you... literally said that stock c5z to a Bolton auto coyote shouldn't end well for the c5z. I haven't seen any Bolton manual 18 coyotes doing much. Considering the best hero stock run I can find is 12.2 vs 11.78 from 15 years ago in c5z. I'd say man pedal vs man pedal stock to Bolton be a damn good race
PS I'd say tire technology has come quite a ways since 2002 too
Yea I guess when you're comparing a bolt on M6 coyote running stock c5z times that means they all do even though they range anywhere in the 10s to low 12s range but hey I guess comparing a hero run for the vette vs the shitty run for the mustang is a ok!

Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Solid bolt on c5z will just bitch slap bolt on coyotah cars of any year or trans. Been there done that with a ls6 in a car not as good as a c5z.
But bolt on coyote Cara been 9s and you struggle to get into the 10s so how have you beat them again? Even your fall guys went internal mod and one went with a destroyed ls7 to just try and run bolt on coyote times yet you were never close. So pathetic attempt to look cool or you're a pathological liar. I choose both
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And what is your experience with either? Have you owned either? Have you raced once vs the other?

I mean you don't even know what ******* gear your in.
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Originally Posted by hiossilver
and what is your experience with either? Have you owned either? Have you raced once vs the other?

I mean you don't even know what ******* gear your in.
you're*
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Damnnnn Islander with the grammar kill shot!!!!!
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Originally Posted by HpipeFlowmasterStang
Damnnnn Islander with the grammar kill shot!!!!!
Gapped!
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Nice pull!!!!!
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C5 Z06 Bone-Stock Times

1--11.783 @ 116.90--1.818--J-Rod---------'02
2--11.818 @ 117.26--1.783--Ranger--------'02 11/03 Slip
3--11.844 @ 117.91--1.761--Gary2004Z06--'04 12/07 Post 229, Slip
4--11.93x @ 119.xx--1.xxx --Esoteric-------'0x
5--11.97x @ 118.80--1.90x--GMHTP--------'04 03/04
6--11.99x @ 117.61--1.xxx --02Z06Racer---'02

C5 Z06 CAI and DOT Tire Times (drag radial and bias ply)

1--11.529 @ 120.21--1.641--Ranger------'02 11/04-HT CAI, 17" BFG Slip Video
2--11.596 @ 118.53--1.675--J-Rod --------'02 xx/xx --ZipTie, ET Street BP
3--11.5xx @ 118.xx --1.67x--fergy flyer ---'02 02/05--CAI, DR
4--11.656 @ 117.75--1.671--eb02z06------'02 10/02--VT CAI Slip
5--11.659 @ 116.97--1.645--PowerShifter -'0x 10/02--CAI, DR
6--11.694 @ 116.56--1.65x--BLU BY U -----'02 12/02--VR CAI, BFG DR
7--11.711 @ 115.53--1.653--Robert56 -----'02 06/05--VR CAI, 18" BFG DR Slip
8--11.756 @ 116.87--1.66x--Steve Row ----'0x xx/xx --CAI, DR
9--11.803 @ 116.95--1.765--procs2v-------'02 03/07--HT CAI, MT DR Slip
10-11.82x @ 118.8x--1.77x--Butcher-------'02 10/02--HT CAI

11.846 @ 115.20--1.782--Floman--------'02 01/09--HT CAI, MT DRs, Post #376
11.850 @ 116.42--1.668--427CPE -------'02 06/05--DR
11.882 @ 118.21--1.773--Purvis---------'02 04/07--K/N filter, Nittos
11.88x @ 118.xx --1.7xx--mike c. -------'0x 10/05--ET Street
11.930 @ 113.98--1.702--L98Terror-----'03 10/05--VR CAI, DR
11.93x @ 116.90--1.xxx --zular ---------'0x xx/xx --CAI
11.942 @ 114.78--1.675--dr.juice-------'03 07/05--ET Street
11.945 @ 117.71--1.xxx--phantasms ----'0x xx/xx --ZipTie
11.947 @ 116.65--1.823--Ranger -------'01 12/01--HT CAI, BFG DR Slip
11.948 @ 117.95--1.830--TheBigK-------'02 09/08--CAI, Post 315,Slip -Video
11.949 @ 117.61--1.xxx --Z06addikt ----'0x xx/xx --CAI, DR
11.957 @ 114.12--1.709--BMX----------'02 11/06--BW CAI, "17 ET St, Post 8
11.965 @ 118.36--1.869--TransAmGT---'03 01/07--Zip Tie, BFG DR Slip
11.966 @ 116.81--1.747--Cyric ---------'03 10/05--CAI, DR
11.967 @ 117.19--1.791--scramblerman -'02 04/07--VR CAI, MT ET ST, Post 247, Slip -Video
11.97x @ 117.97--1.74x--BlueZ06-------'03 xx/xx --CAI, DR
11.97x @ 117.97--1.74x--COUTO1981---'03 xx/xx --DR
11.988 @ 115.98--1.851--Gary2004Z06--'04 12/06--KN Filter
11.998 @ 116.95--1.810--Kamil ---------'03 11/06--ZT Mod, 18" BFG DR Slip

C5 Z06 External Bolt On Times (stock long-block)

1--10.890@125.06--1.465--GARY2004Z06-'04 12/08-VR, DRs, ARH LTs, Tex Exo-Skel, 4.10s, Post #356
2--11.175@121.07--1.610--94z28racecar--'03 12/09-VR CAI, LTs, UDP, Mcleod Twin, DRs, Post #463
3--11.214@122.30--1.580---Dr Ron -------'03 11/05-VR CAI, ET St, LT, ClutchSlip
4--11.25x@123.7x--1.58x---Butcher-------'03 10/04-Bolt Ons, 3.90 gear
5--11.355@121.92--1.667--Stevo92z28---'02 12/09-LTs, Blackwing, ET Streets, Post #464
6--11.37x@123.7x--1.48x---PaulZ06-------'0x xx/xx -Bolt Ons, 3.73 gearVideo
7--11.405@123.61--1.616 --Qksiver-------'02 01/05-VR CAI, NT DR, Clutch Slip
8--11.442@122.51--1.643---spindoctor----'01 01/07-ET ST, CAI, LT
9--11.461@119.79--1.634---procs2v-------'02 04/08-HT CAI, MT DR, LT, Post 220 Video
10--11.566@119.50--1.772-Robert@SpeedDemon-'04 02/09-CAI, BFG DR, LT, Post #380


11.598@119.38--1.722---N75196-------'04 03/07-LT, VR, Clutch, MT/DR Slip
11.62x @ 11x.xx--1.66x---holedgr -------'02 xx/xx -Bolt Ons
11.661@118.86--1.702----MVR155------'02 11/07-LT, BW CAI, DR, Post 210 Slip
11.733@118.32--1.757--Bonestockz06---'03 11/08-Stk LongBlk, LT's, CAI, DR's, Post #335
11.741@117.92--1.628--TheBigK--------'02 10/09-CAI, Ported TB, Tune, DRs, Post #454
11.74x@119.78--1.74x---pro dh --------'02 06/07-VR, LT, 18" BFG Slip
11.760@119.14--1.718---Cyric----------'03 04/07-CAI, LT BFG 18"Slip
11.769 @ 115.96--1.57x--RooferDave----'03 06/04-Bolt Ons, 4.10 gear
11.78x @ 116.31--1.69x--CHIWS6 ------'03 11/07--VR, NT DR, LT, Post 224, Video
11.804 @ 118.xx--1.75x--dhajek--------'02 xx/xx-LT
11.818 @ 116.86--1.715--Higgs Boson---'01 10/07-CAI, LT, ET ST, Post 194,Slip
11.819 @ 116.11--1.680--19vette91----'02 03/06-LTs, VR, ET ST Radial, Post 257
11.82x @ 117.70--1.70x--Cheif Dave----'01 xx/xx-Bolt Ons
11.847 @ 117.93--1.775--96-speed-----'01 11/06-CAI, LT, Pulley, Post 15
11.85x @ 117.40--1.78x--Pray----------'01 xx/xx-Bolt Ons
11.86x @ 118.5x--1.82x--Blue Angel-----'02 09/04-LT, CB
11.896 @ 122.05--1.940--ZOHSIX-------'03 01/07-VR, LT
11.916 @ 117.40--1.845--mqqn ---------'02 10/07-HT CAI, LT, Toyo Proxis T1R, Post 450,Slip
11.93x @ 120.97--1.86x--COUTO1981---'03 10/05-LT
11.96x @ 118.92--1.91x--AOC ----------'03 03/06-VR CAI, LT
11.97x @ 115.09--1.69x--BuddhaZ06----'01 08/09--CAI, 4.10s, ET Streets, Post #442
11.982 @ 114.44--1.661-onequicksilverz06 '01 12/07-BFG DR, VR CAI, LT, Post 245
11.984 @ 115.02--1.75x--enderz06------'02 10/03-Bolt Ons
11.98x @ 117.63--1.830--MSiska--------'02 xx/xx-Bolt Ons
11.990 @ 114.5x--1.74x--McRat --------'02 10/02-Bolt Ons
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Solid bolt on c5z will just bitch slap bolt on coyotah cars of any year or trans. Been there done that with a ls6 in a car not as good as a c5z.
yup ls6 are nuts
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No doubt the C5 ZO6 was and still is pretty stout. I am sure the C5 ZO6 owes a good amount to the weight and aerodynamics though. If I am correct, I believe they only weighed in at ~3100lbs.
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Well it certainly wasn't the gearing that's in a c5z favor.

But think about it. A gen1 coyotah was only rated at 7 more hp than a ls6 and maybe less tq. As far as bolt ons go my ls6 made atleast the same hp as any coyotah on pump gas ive seen......and more tq. This is a na engine from 2002 we're talking about here.

So it owes nothing. It's just a great all round package. One that furd really hasn't equaled to this day.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Well it certainly wasn't the gearing that's in a c5z favor.

But think about it. A gen1 coyotah was only rated at 7 more hp than a ls6 and maybe less tq. As far as bolt ons go my ls6 made atleast the same hp as any coyotah on pump gas ive seen......and more tq. This is a na engine from 2002 we're talking about here.

So it owes nothing. It's just a great all round package. One that furd really hasn't equaled to this day.
yeah ls6 was way ahead of its time. And so simple




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