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Old 09-01-2005, 03:07 PM
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I am racing my friends mach 1 soon he has full exaust,intake spacer,both k&n intakes,3.55gears and eibach lowering springs. Also steeda lower controll arms. I have full exaust and Ls2 throttle body,85mm mass air flow, ls6intake, and K&N fipk.Also with a set of 315/35/17 drag radials in the back. he has a pair to but they are pretty bald. Basically my question is where should i run him from or no matter the cercumstance i should beat him? Should i go from a roll and if so around which rpms because i know LS1s pull harder uptop plus he has a higher gear ratio than me. Or should i just go from a dig? what do u guys think???
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Uh oh...I think I hear the 4.6l advocets on their way. Here come the mach1 guys. There is absolutely no way you will win with your weak 5.7l LS1, the mach's are just too powerful......haha
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You'll beat him...from a dig or a roll...especially with the drag radials. Just make sure you beep off the race...ya know, "on the 3rd beep, punch it." With steeper gears, they can be pretty mean off the line if they get good traction, but with the upgrades you have, I wouldn't worry about it. Let us all know how it turns out.
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Originally Posted by Redneck Z
Uh oh...I think I hear the 4.6l advocets on their way. Here come the mach1 guys. There is absolutely no way you will win with your weak 5.7l LS1, the mach's are just too powerful......haha
That's some funny **** and I agree with you 100%. These Mach guys not only talk about beating LS1 F-bodies but some of them talk about taking Z06's and C6's too......
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You'll take him. I beat an 01 Cobra with Mac exhaust by about 3.5 carlenghts in a 1/4. The 01's are nearly identical to the Mach1's speed wise.
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You'll take him. I beat an 01 Cobra with Mac exhaust by about 3.5 carlenghts in a 1/4. The 01's are nearly identical to the Mach1's speed wise.
Yep almost a carbon copy though the solid axle does help the Mach a bit off the line. You should take him...
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I WOULDNT WORRY TO MUCH I RACED A VORTECH BLOWN 03 MACH WITH 315 NITTOS ALL I HAVE IS LONG TUBES Y-PIPE BORLA CAT BACK MASS AIR SENOR AIR TEMP MOD T/B BYPASS 160 STAT HYPERTECH CHIP AND I WAS ON THE GUYS BUMPER IT WAS FROM A DIG 1/4 MILE COUNTRY ROADS AND HE HAD THE JUMP BUT A LOSE IS A LOSE I WILL RUN HIM NEXT WEEK WITH THE NEW SHIFT KIT 3.73 GEAR AND VIG 3600 STALL HE SPENT ALOT ON THE CAR AND BLOWER AND INSTALL I REALLY HAVE NOT PUT TO MUCH INTO MINE SEND THAT PONY TO THE GLUE FACTORY
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QUOTE:Yep almost a carbon copy though the solid axle does help the Mach a bit off the line. You should take him...

I wouldn't say a carbon copy. I'm no mach1 expert, but these are some of
the ways a mach1 differs from an 01 Cobra that I'm aware of:

1-Heads
2-Intake
3-Cams
4-Compression Ratio
5-Gears(3.55's)
6-Solid Rear Axle
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Race him and find out.


Was that better guys? I been working through some f-body angerment and I feel things are starting feel normal again since the therapy.
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You seem to be comming along quite nicely. Props to therapy.
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Originally Posted by 1FSTBRD
I WOULDNT WORRY TO MUCH I RACED A VORTECH BLOWN 03 MACH WITH 315 NITTOS ALL I HAVE IS LONG TUBES Y-PIPE BORLA CAT BACK MASS AIR SENOR AIR TEMP MOD T/B BYPASS 160 STAT HYPERTECH CHIP AND I WAS ON THE GUYS BUMPER IT WAS FROM A DIG 1/4 MILE COUNTRY ROADS AND HE HAD THE JUMP BUT A LOSE IS A LOSE I WILL RUN HIM NEXT WEEK WITH THE NEW SHIFT KIT 3.73 GEAR AND VIG 3600 STALL HE SPENT ALOT ON THE CAR AND BLOWER AND INSTALL I REALLY HAVE NOT PUT TO MUCH INTO MINE SEND THAT PONY TO THE GLUE FACTORY


I don't know which is worse:

1: You sounding like a complete TOOL.

or

2: That you're shouting at the top of your lungs (while sounding like a complete tool... )
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Originally Posted by Redneck Z
Uh oh...I think I hear the 4.6l advocets on their way. Here come the mach1 guys. There is absolutely no way you will win with your weak 5.7l LS1, the mach's are just too powerful......haha
I read this post and can visualize exactly what that would look like.


dan03mach will be appearing later today..
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Originally Posted by Redneck Z
QUOTE:Yep almost a carbon copy though the solid axle does help the Mach a bit off the line. You should take him...

I wouldn't say a carbon copy. I'm no mach1 expert, but these are some of
the ways a mach1 differs from an 01 Cobra that I'm aware of:

1-Heads
2-Intake
3-Cams
4-Compression Ratio
5-Gears(3.55's)
6-Solid Rear Axle
Stock Machs and 01 Cobras make nearly identical power....there may be slight changes in the intake, cams, compression etc....but they are basically the same.
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Originally Posted by cantdrv65
Stock Machs and 01 Cobras make nearly identical power....there may be slight changes in the intake, cams, compression etc....but they are basically the same.
I've owned both & I wouldn't call them "basically the same."

'03/'04 Mach 1 4V makes more low-end torque, more peak torque & a little more rwhp than the '01 4V.

Both cars when stock:



My dyno was about average BTW - some completely stock '03/'04 Mach's have put down over 290 rwhp & 320 rwtq. I've never heard of a '99/'01 Cobra make that kind of rwhp/rwtq (especially rwtq) when stock.
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Originally Posted by grey03mach1
Race him and find out.


Was that better guys? I been working through some f-body angerment and I feel things are starting feel normal again since the therapy.
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QUOTE: Stock Machs and 01 Cobras make nearly identical power....there may be slight changes in the intake, cams, compression etc....but they are basically the same.

I guess it's all relative. I wouldn't consider these two cars basically the same in any sense. They are the same only because they have a Ford 4v 4.6l motor. Other than that, almost everything is different. They have a different block(iron vs. aluminum), heads, cams, intake, suspension, gears, rear end, power band, etc., etc. The cars weren't even designed for the same purpose, and that's why almost everything about them is different. You can't say because they have 4.6l motors and make "close" to the same power #'s that they are the same. In reality, they are actually almost nothing alike. If you subtract all the differences between the two cars, you are left with almost no similarities. They both have 4v heads...... period.

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Oh my god don't even think about it, even with a procharger an ls1 is no match for a stock mach!!!
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QUOTE: Oh my god don't even think about it, even with a procharger an ls1 is no match for a stock mach!!!




You'd almost think so by listening to how some of the mach1 guys brag about their cars. You'd think they were packin' a 5.6l instead of a 4.6l.
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Originally Posted by 2001stripper
That's some funny **** and I agree with you 100%. These Mach guys not only talk about beating LS1 F-bodies but some of them talk about taking Z06's and C6's too......
Not all of them
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