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Old 01-07-2006, 03:10 AM
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first off this isnt me bashing on mustangs...well the story is i keep racing my friend with his mustang GT and he is pretty modfied and i keep beating him fairly easily.... its an 01 5 spedd...with long tube headers off road x some cold air intake and a bbk throttle body. and E/t streets.. we race from a roll and he will hang for like a second then i just put a car on and keep pulling.. and we will race from a dig and he will only hold throhg first and some of second...my question is im almost stock...lid loudmouth and ported throttle body... y am i beating him so badly??? i mean is it his car or his driving.... i just assumed a gt stang with that much mods would be doin a lot better???? basicly im wondering is it just my car is that much faster or does the mods he mmean he should be faster ??? cause he keeps getting pretty upset every time he loses... just wondering wat it might be
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Yeah, basically your car is just plain faster. Driving may play a role as well, but an 01GT with those mods is not in the same league as your Z.
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Its cuz GT's are slow. So is my car.. damn non FI
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01 GTs stock cant even take a LT1 STOCK
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Originally Posted by anthonyz281999
first off this isnt me bashing on mustangs...well the story is i keep racing my friend with his mustang GT and he is pretty modfied and i keep beating him fairly easily.... its an 01 5 spedd...with long tube headers off road x some cold air intake and a bbk throttle body. and E/t streets.. we race from a roll and he will hang for like a second then i just put a car on and keep pulling.. and we will race from a dig and he will only hold throhg first and some of second...my question is im almost stock...lid loudmouth and ported throttle body... y am i beating him so badly??? i mean is it his car or his driving.... i just assumed a gt stang with that much mods would be doin a lot better???? basicly im wondering is it just my car is that much faster or does the mods he mmean he should be faster ??? cause he keeps getting pretty upset every time he loses... just wondering wat it might be
It's more to do with the fact you have ~345bhp STOCK and the Mustang only has 260bhp. With just LT's and an exhaust, and a TB it won't be making much more, maybe 280bhp with a tune. So you still have a masiive bhp advantage. Ok, the Fbody is a tad heavier, but not by much. Driving may also be an issue, your auto is easy to launch and goo quick, a manual is a little more tricky.

Stock your car 'should' be capable of 13.5 @ 104mph maybe a tad better with a few simple mods. Most stock GT's are capable of 14.0 @ 98mph. It's the trap speed that makes the difference from a roll.
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you weigh close to the same, and his car, even with mods, is at 230rwhp stock, + 25 for his exhaust with a tune and his TB= maybe 5 if hes lucky as hell. THat is still only around 260rwhp. Compare that to your 300+ rwhp and you should see why you keep killing him. Stock, the 99-04 GT's are okay, but 13.7-14.4 is all they are really good for while still stockish. Your car should do 13.2-13.6 stock and with your mods, high 12's are in order.
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good race! Yeah yoru just plain faster. Beatin a gt is not hard at all. It is like racing a honda civic stock. Just be careful with those 4.6 gt's....they can be pretty darn mean
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THey love them some FI
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haha yeah cant get none of the big boys
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Easy. You have more power.

Just fyi...we use rwhp, not bhp which is essentially meaningless.
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well Unit, for those of us with the same BHP as others have rwhp, we like BHP #'s better
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Originally Posted by unit213
Easy. You have more power.

Just fyi...we use rwhp, not bhp which is essentially meaningless.
rwbhp, or have we been here before
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The 2v are really a joke na. When my car belonged to my wife and was just bolt ons, I would put a good distance on LS1s through second. Once 3rd comes around, the LS1's top end comes into play. His only chance is from a dig, but after that its all over.
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Originally Posted by anthonyz281999
its an 01 5 spedd...with long tube headers off road x some cold air intake and a bbk throttle body. and E/t streets..
that really isn't any big power mods. throw some gears, intake plenum, stg. 3 clutch, and a tune (maybe even a driver mod) and it would be a much closer race.

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sorry to bring up a old topic but i am friends with the guy that owns this mustang he is talking about..

his car is a 99 gt with 3.73's longtubes, x pipe, throttle body and plenum.

he cannot drive that car well at all.. he runs 14's at the track while i went 13.90 in chok's 01 gt with flowmasters and a drop in k+N

i have not seen you race him anthony, but i assure you his car is being held back by him big time.. his car with a good driver will go mid to low 13's that should be more than enough for him too beat you at the track..

your car as far as i know is a 2.73 car with a cat back. that ran 13.90's at the track.. peoplel here seem too think your car is more heavly modified than it really is and they also think you ran low 13's.. last i checked you ran mostly 14's with a best of 13.9X@101
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So since he runs low 14s in his GT, and you run 13.9 when you drive it, do you honestly think a "good driver" is going to pull out low 13's!?! The both of you the must be the worst drivers in the world to have a "good" driver take almost a second off of your 1/4 mile times?

Also, you claim the LS1 usually runs low 14's, and yet, the GT that runs the same times with the owner driving gets spanked everytime. Everything you said makes no sense. I don't see any LS1, especially one with a lid/catback running low 14's on a regular basis unless something is seriously wrong with the car.
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I was in the car for a couple races with the et streets on and with regular driving tires. Without the ets anthony would beat our friend off the line. Than the race was pretty much over because anthony's car would have 3 cars than make more toward the end of the 1/4mile. Anthony's car with a auto with 2.73's gears, cai and catback as far as i know. So my friend with the red gt wanted to try out his new et streets and we meet up with anthony at a local hangout. The GT has 3.73's gears, trick flow intake, bbk cai, tb. long tubes, xpipe and catback. We ended up going to a clear area where they could race with no problems. Anthony's car did end up winning both races.

I know svttech, anthony and 99GT driver. We have a pretty fun thing going. I think we should all go to the track and settle it all with timeslips. Let us know if you want too.

Anthony if this is a differant car you are talking about let us know. I am thinking of the red GT.

anthonys car went 13.9 @ 100mph+ that i heard
svt went 13.9 @99 or so
99GT went 14.2 @100+mph
my car went 13.4 @ 102mph

How have you been anthony long time now chat? Have you done anything to your car?
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The GT hasnt raced with the et at the track. Also i do see alot of cars LS1, LT1 , GT, STI and SRT4 running low14's. To answer your question. These are two differant GTs. One is modded 14low and other is basically stock other than a dropin K&N and Flowmaster mufflers 13.9. Where is you guys get low 13's out of anthonys car.



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So since he runs low 14s in his GT, and you run 13.9 when you drive it, do you honestly think a "good driver" is going to pull out low 13's!?! The both of you the must be the worst drivers in the world to have a "good" driver take almost a second off of your 1/4 mile times?

Also, you claim the LS1 usually runs low 14's, and yet, the GT that runs the same times with the owner driving gets spanked everytime. Everything you said makes no sense. I don't see any LS1, especially one with a lid/catback running low 14's on a regular basis unless something is seriously wrong with the car.
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Originally Posted by chevy94c
The GT hasnt raced with the et at the track. Also i do see alot of cars LS1, LT1 , GT, STI and SRT4 running low14's. To answer your question. These are two differant GTs. One is modded 14low and other is basically stock other than a dropin K&N and Flowmaster mufflers 13.9. Where is you guys get low 13's out of anthonys car.
Lets see...stock 2.73 cars run mid-high 13's on average. His car has a lid/catback that should be worth 2 tenths. So that means he should be driving either a low or mid 13 second car unless it is not running right or has been beat to hell. Check out the timeslips page and A4 cars with fewer mods are running low 13's. I'm not sure why you would think his car is NOT capable of low 13's.
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An LS1 can do low 13's no problem. I know people that run 14's in 02 WS6's though. THey spin all the way. I have heard of a kid in daddy's Z06 running 15.0 I mean, it all comes down to driver/weather/track prep.



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