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Old 02-17-2006, 12:33 PM
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Well that camaro i was going to buy got sold on me so im now looking at a 1997 3000gt vr4. All i know is this car has AWD a 320 hp twin turbo v6, and some kind of all wheel steering!?!?, it also has active aerodynamics and some other hi-tech ****, i was wonderin how this thing would fair against my buddies stock 01 ss, from a roll and a dig, they are both m6's
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SS will eat it for lunch!
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Old 02-17-2006, 01:08 PM
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Stock for stock the SS will beat it. The SS will kill the VR-4 badly from a roll. But, you can do some pretty simple and effective mods to even it out and make the Vr-4 faster than the SS.
Here is a link with some good info:
http://www.3si.org/pages/stagedpower.html
Also, before you buy a vr-4 you should be aware that the transfer case is very delicate. If you do some hard launches the transfer case will be fucked up.
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Old 02-17-2006, 01:16 PM
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i dont think you would be happpy with the car unless its in vry good condition. and the motor was well maintaind. you could end up using alot of money fixing it
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Originally Posted by Z2K_MrJ
i dont think you would be happpy with the car unless its in vry good condition. and the motor was well maintaind. you could end up using alot of money fixing it
What he said...a low mileage 97 vr4 in pristine condition will be going for 15K+, maybe even more, at least thats what ive seen as they are becoming more and more rare, especially if they are stock and havent been beaten on. However, you can get a stock SS or WS6 for less than that, or even a firebird or z28 for even less than youd pay for the SS or WS6.
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Old 02-17-2006, 01:30 PM
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the only thing is i cant find any camaros or firebirds around here in MA that are worth buying... i would rather get an f-body with an ls1 but i just cant find one
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Wait your in massachusetts, what part? If you look around on autotrader and in the local ads there are a handful that ive seen for sale. Trust me just keep looking.
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get the newer car, hence the SS , just keep lookin, and be patient
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Here are just a few that look good:

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...998&cardist=50

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...=en&cardist=57
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...=en&cardist=69

My favorite color:

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...998&cardist=47


http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...=en&cardist=46
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THat Red SS is a hell of a deal. I wonder if snything is wrong with it or if it was wrecked...
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most of those except for the purple one are too expensive, i can only spend max 13G's
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oh ok, didnt know your price range, just as an example i got my 98z28 in 2002 with 28K miles, every option, leather, chromes, m6 for $13,000. I knwo its a pain but you gotta just keep looking an checking autotrader and like the local car mags.
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There are tons of deals out there. I bought my SS with 17k miles for $16000 and it was in EXCELLENT condition. Keep looking you will find one
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heres one at veraka motors, although ive heard both positive and negative things about them if the car is tight and checks out thats a sweet deal:

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...=en&cardist=38

This one is under 10K with 60K miles and leather and everything:

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...=en&cardist=61
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And heres a nice trans am ws6:

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...ng=&cardist=70
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I'm sure you'd never be satisfied with a VR-4 if you have your heart set on an LS1 powered F-Body. That being said, the 2nd gen VR-4's (94-on) don't have quite as fragile a transfer case as the 1st gen ones do. Just a $15 boost controller makes a low 13/high 12 second capable car out of one if driven aggressively at the track. I've got two TT's, a 92 as a daily driver and a modded 93 to play with along with my 2000 SS A4. If drag racing at the track is your thing, just keep looking until you find the perfect F-Body. If you're into street racing or the occasional impromtu stoplight race, don't count out the AWD of the 3/S. AWD is a great advantage on slippery unprepped public streets when it comes down to racing. My SS and 93TT have been close in performance through various stages of mods with the SS coming out on top at the track and the TT coming out on top on the street. Believe me, though, it took a lot more work to get the TT running 11's than it did the SS. Once I get my 408 in the SS this little competition between my two cars will be over. There's no way the 93TT will ever be close to the SS, performance wise, again. To the original poster: Since I own both cars I'll gladly discuss what I've done to both cars if that will help you in any way decide what route you want to take. Just PM me.
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Man, wait for te LS1 car, my friend bought a 98 SS M6 for 6500 in cherry condition with 64K miles. Other guy i know got an 02 Z28 A4 for 14K and it had less than 20K miles on it. THat VR4 is a NEAT CAR, but it will spend a lot of time in the shop...wait on a good deal on an LS1, if you REALLY WANT ONE, McAllen/Brownsville/Harlingen/Alamo TX has a TON of LS1 cars sitting on dealer (private and commercial) lots in great shape for VERY good prices. Check around down there if you know anyone.
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around where i live there is a 02 z28 6spd with 34k miles, for 17,000, it has aftermarket wheels, so i looks real nice. so like someone have already said, there are tons of deals out there.
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Bench racers are taking over!
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