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Old 03-06-2006, 12:22 PM
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My question is who do yall think would win from a roll between the C6 ZO6 and Mercedes finest the SLR Mclaren??

C6 Z06:

Horsepower: 505 hp @ 6300 rpm
Torque: 470 lb-ft @ 4800 rpm
Max rpm: 7000 rpm
Transmission: 6-speed manual
Weight: 3132 lbs

0-60: 3.7 sec
0-100: 7.9 sec
1/4:11.5 @ 127
Top speed: 198 mph

Mercedes SLR Mclaren:

Horsepower: 617 hp @ 6500 rpm
Torque: 575 lb-ft @ 3200 rpm
Max rpm: 7000 rpm
Transmission: 5-speed automatic
Weight: 3800 lbs

0-60: 3.8 sec
0-100: 7.9 sec
1/4: 11.6 at 127
Top speed: 207 mph

I know at the drag strip there would be some great matches but how 'bout from a roll??

Also which one's better in the handling department??

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Interesting comparo. I've seen a C6 Z06 walk a Gallardo hard from a roll, and a Lamborghini is nothing to scuff at. The SLR McClaren is fast for sure, but its got a significant weight disadvantage against the Z06, and the handicap of having an automatic with only 5-speeds. The SLR's weight should be 3734lbs, not 3527lbs as you listed, its quite a heavy car.

I think the Z06 would definitely outhandle the SLR, being that the McClaren seems like more of a GT car than a purebred sports car, with its heavier weight, automatic transmission, and luxurious interior apppointments.

I'd love to see a race between the two cars, but I honestly think the Z06 would win, going from either a dig or a roll. It may be down about 100HP, but the 600lb weight advantage, manual transmission, and closer gear ratios can definitely make up for that.
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Originally Posted by Wesmanw02
Interesting comparo. I've seen a C6 Z06 walk a Gallardo hard from a roll, and a Lamborghini is nothing to scuff at. The SLR McClaren is fast for sure, but its got a significant weight disadvantage against the Z06, and the handicap of having an automatic with only 5-speeds. The SLR's weight should be 3734lbs, not 3527lbs as you listed, its quite a heavy car.

I think the Z06 would definitely outhandle the SLR, being that the McClaren seems like more of a GT car than a purebred sports car, with its heavier weight, automatic transmission, and luxurious interior apppointments.

I'd love to see a race between the two cars, but I honestly think the Z06 would win, going from either a dig or a roll. It may be down about 100HP, but the 600lb weight advantage, manual transmission, and closer gear ratios can definitely make up for that.
Good analogy. Looking at the 1/4 times I'd say it would be close at the strip. From a roll I don't know. The SLR has a top speed of 207 mph so that 5-speed is probably geared well for high end runs.
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The Mclaren wins from a roll, and in the handling department.
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Originally Posted by Hoss Ghoul
The Mclaren wins from a roll, and in the handling department.
I'm not so sure the Mclaren beats the Vette in the handling department. The Mclaren has better brakes but like Wesman said the SLR is more of a GT touring/highway car than a pure bred sports cars like the Z06. Also didn't the C6 Z06 post like one of the fastest times ever for a stock car at Nuringberg in Germany?? I think it was 7:43.
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Originally Posted by TORNATIC!!
I'm not so sure the Mclaren beats the Vette in the handling department. The Mclaren has better brakes but like Wesman said the SLR is more of a GT touring/highway car than a pure bred sports cars like the Z06. Also didn't the C6 Z06 post like one of the fastest times ever for a stock car at Nuringberg in Germany?? I think it was 7:43.
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The C6 Z06 posted the second fastest time for a stock prodction car at the Nuringberg ring, the only car that posted a faster time was the 400 000+ Porsche Carrera GT.
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Also we know GM is underrating the zo6 505hp more like 550 on average.
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'vette ... just 'cause it's a 'vette. Torque management might cause the C6 some problems, though.
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Also we know GM is underrating the zo6 505hp more like 550 on average.
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that would mean that the C6 ZO6 is putting like 500 to the wheels if you meant they are underrating at 550 fwhp.... i haven't heard this before, maybe i just am out of the loop or something cuz i have never heard this
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imo the only place the slr would win is in a high mph roll.
I wish there was some way to find out, that's some matchup.
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Originally Posted by ChaseSS
that would mean that the C6 ZO6 is putting like 500 to the wheels if you meant they are underrating at 550 fwhp.... i haven't heard this before, maybe i just am out of the loop or something cuz i have never heard this

I thought the vette was putting out an honest 505 hp @ the flywheel because they were using that new SAE Standard where the HP figures are verified by a third party..
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I would Vote for the Vette.
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The dyno I saw for the vette puts it mid 400's. I would say IBTU, but UNIT seems to have dissappeared.
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(at the tires)
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well I guess one could assume if a z06 put out 450rwhp, assuming a 13% drivetrain loss you're looking at 517 fwhp. IIRC I thought they were dynoing in the 435-440rwhp range.
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Wow. I'm shocked this question is even being asked.

A stock C6 ZO6 wouldn't stand a chance against an SLR from a roll; PERIOD.

Also IBTU
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Buffman, last dyno i saw for a C6 06 was 430whp.
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Originally Posted by The Dragon
Wow. I'm shocked this question is even being asked.

A stock C6 ZO6 wouldn't stand a chance against an SLR from a roll; PERIOD.

Also IBTU
Woudln't that depend on the top speed? What if the roll race is from 60-160/180?

It obvious that the slr would pass it eventually due to the top speed.
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If my little Trans Am will go 170+ at pigiron weight of 3700 lbs, why wouldn't the C6 Z06 go as fast as or faster than the McClaren ... being sooo much lighter with a 427 race engine? Is the gear ratio of the C6 Z06 that large a ratio?
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even though the zo6 has a quicker 1/4 mile time, imagine how long it took some test drive junkie to do it? the slr being automatic and electronic traction aids and pedal control actually has the advantage. its a no brainer, just point and shoot. compared to the vette that needs to be "finessed" to those times. one slip up of any kind on the track, and its all over for the zo6.
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