Ford guys.....seriously need to chill out
03-15-2006, 11:25 AM
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"...I personally think the only people that actually have a right to say anything bad about either a cobra or a ls1 would be the people that have owned both...."
the above opinion should be pasted at the top of this section of LS1TECH permanently. bravo to you, i agree 100%.
as a former multiple-LS1 owner (and a former Mustang GT owner, and a former 440 6-barrel Road Runner owner, and a former 396 Chevelle owner, and a WRX, and a blah blah blah ...), and a current owner of a non-LS1/non-Mustang car, the above observation can properly be applied to numerous other cars.
folks, unless you've owned, modified, and raced your competitors cars, your so-called "facts" have the limited range of your own tongue.
the above opinion should be pasted at the top of this section of LS1TECH permanently. bravo to you, i agree 100%.
as a former multiple-LS1 owner (and a former Mustang GT owner, and a former 440 6-barrel Road Runner owner, and a former 396 Chevelle owner, and a WRX, and a blah blah blah ...), and a current owner of a non-LS1/non-Mustang car, the above observation can properly be applied to numerous other cars.
folks, unless you've owned, modified, and raced your competitors cars, your so-called "facts" have the limited range of your own tongue.
03-15-2006, 12:30 PM
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"...I personally think the only people that actually have a right to say anything bad about either a cobra or a ls1 would be the people that have owned both...."
the above opinion should be pasted at the top of this section of LS1TECH permanently. bravo to you, i agree 100%.
as a former multiple-LS1 owner (and a former Mustang GT owner, and a former 440 6-barrel Road Runner owner, and a former 396 Chevelle owner, and a WRX, and a blah blah blah ...), and a current owner of a non-LS1/non-Mustang car, the above observation can properly be applied to numerous other cars.
folks, unless you've owned, modified, and raced your competitors cars, your so-called "facts" have the limited range of your own tongue.
the above opinion should be pasted at the top of this section of LS1TECH permanently. bravo to you, i agree 100%.
as a former multiple-LS1 owner (and a former Mustang GT owner, and a former 440 6-barrel Road Runner owner, and a former 396 Chevelle owner, and a WRX, and a blah blah blah ...), and a current owner of a non-LS1/non-Mustang car, the above observation can properly be applied to numerous other cars.
folks, unless you've owned, modified, and raced your competitors cars, your so-called "facts" have the limited range of your own tongue.
03-15-2006, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by JayplaySS2
OUTLAWZ....Damn nice set-up. There are stupid people everywhere and they drive all kinds of cars, enough said. 
03-15-2006, 01:05 PM
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oh dam!!!
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Jesus Christ Almighty!! Am I mistaken or is there not a single period in that response? My head hurts.. j/k with ya.
Just playing i never think about th small stuff 
03-15-2006, 01:14 PM
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They keep on babbling about their damn "Terminator"....well WTF is the new Z06 going to be called then? Are they just forgeting that GM still owns in the power department?
03-15-2006, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by turbols1_05
Guys Guys were all American Here 
The ricer guys don't bash each other like this. Those guys team up, and mod the **** out of their cars just to come for us!! [B](Now lets all make up 
/ then go outside startup our mighty v-8s and drink a cold one 
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The ricer guys don't bash each other like this. Those guys team up, and mod the **** out of their cars just to come for us!! [B](Now lets all make up / then go outside startup our mighty v-8s and drink a cold one ) I love cobras and all but i must say i hate GT's. I see them around every corner and im so tired of them.
03-15-2006, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ecko70
They keep on babbling about their damn "Terminator"....well WTF is the new Z06 going to be called then? Are they just forgeting that GM still owns in the power department?
03-15-2006, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ecko70
They keep on babbling about their damn "Terminator"....well WTF is the new Z06 going to be called then? Are they just forgeting that GM still owns in the power department?
Yer a funny guy. That nickname was the unofficial code name for the S/C Cobra when in the planning stages. It just stuck. Cars are cars and most all of them can be made fast. I think I've own something from just about every Mfg. out there and driven countless more. I dealt in HPerf and Exotics for a while and drove stuff nobody's heard of, well, not many anyway. The point is, iron is iron regardless the brand. Speed is speed regardless the brand. As an old wrench told me years ago...
"Speed costs Son, how fast ya wanna go?"
because he seemed more excited about seeing " the notebook" than any man ever should.
03-15-2006, 06:13 PM
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No one can honestly talk bad about the 03/04 Cobras. I can't think of any other car with forged bottom ends and boost where you can spend bolt-on type dollars, put down over 500 to the wheels, and still drive like stock. I really like my car, but I do wish I could buy an 03/04. They're probably one of the easiest cars to mod.
That said, I can't help but mention that when you compare the 4.6 to other hot rod engines, it's more like a 305 Chevy then a 350 because of the small bore. If as much R&D were sunk into a 305 as the 4.6 not to mention boost, it would be a respectable performance engine as well. I just wish Ford would have been thinking long term back in 1991 and designed the modular engine blocks with a large bore. You can only go so far with head flow with a 3.55" bore. That is why they had to turn to forced induction to make them perform. No one who knows engines can honestly deny this.
But then again, with the twin screw blowers available today, the 4.6 handycaps can be easily overcome as we've seen.
Jason
That said, I can't help but mention that when you compare the 4.6 to other hot rod engines, it's more like a 305 Chevy then a 350 because of the small bore. If as much R&D were sunk into a 305 as the 4.6 not to mention boost, it would be a respectable performance engine as well. I just wish Ford would have been thinking long term back in 1991 and designed the modular engine blocks with a large bore. You can only go so far with head flow with a 3.55" bore. That is why they had to turn to forced induction to make them perform. No one who knows engines can honestly deny this.
But then again, with the twin screw blowers available today, the 4.6 handycaps can be easily overcome as we've seen.
Jason
03-16-2006, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ecko70
They keep on babbling about their damn "Terminator"....well WTF is the new Z06 going to be called then? Are they just forgeting that GM still owns in the power department?
Dodge is doing better than both! 
03-16-2006, 04:31 PM
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Dodge has figured out that when they really start to suck, they need to come up with something thats actually inspiring in a normal road car for normal people. It saves them.
PT Cruiser: As much as we make fun of it, its cheap to make and it was innovative.
300C: First full size sedan I have really desired in a long time.
Magnum:Innovative, pretty useable, potential badass.
Magnum: Same, but more Badass.
Charger:No need to comment.
SRT4:One of the best bang for buck cars being produced.
Crossfire:I hate the lame *** underperforming POS that doesnt handle, but hey, others like 'em. Must be the styling. Which I also hate, but they are spending their money, not mine....
Anyway, point is, Dodge/Mercedes has a great all around line up of stuff thats actually exciting and is built and marketed as such. I really dont think the vast mojority of people on Earth are willing to look beyond stereotypes and understand that US cars are not unreliable anymore. That means the US makers have to really up the excitement in their main line cars. Trucks are going away as normal commuter vehicles. The Fusion and Malibu MAX are not going to cut it. The Solstice rocks though. Thank god for fun little RWD cars. GM can still pull some awesome stuff from overseas and create some baddass stuff that sells. Same for Ford. As long as they dont cop out and loose their identity. I dont see that happening aytime soon though.
PT Cruiser: As much as we make fun of it, its cheap to make and it was innovative.
300C: First full size sedan I have really desired in a long time.
Magnum:Innovative, pretty useable, potential badass.
Magnum: Same, but more Badass.
Charger:No need to comment.
SRT4:One of the best bang for buck cars being produced.
Crossfire:I hate the lame *** underperforming POS that doesnt handle, but hey, others like 'em. Must be the styling. Which I also hate, but they are spending their money, not mine....
Anyway, point is, Dodge/Mercedes has a great all around line up of stuff thats actually exciting and is built and marketed as such. I really dont think the vast mojority of people on Earth are willing to look beyond stereotypes and understand that US cars are not unreliable anymore. That means the US makers have to really up the excitement in their main line cars. Trucks are going away as normal commuter vehicles. The Fusion and Malibu MAX are not going to cut it. The Solstice rocks though. Thank god for fun little RWD cars. GM can still pull some awesome stuff from overseas and create some baddass stuff that sells. Same for Ford. As long as they dont cop out and loose their identity. I dont see that happening aytime soon though.
03-16-2006, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ecko70
Are they just forgeting that GM still owns in the power department?
that mean Ford "owns" in ther power department as you put it?
Let's hear it..."But it's $100K more, it should make more power!"
03-16-2006, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by unit213
The Ford GT puts down about 100rwhp more that a C6 Z06. Doesn't
that mean Ford "owns" in ther power department as you put it?
Let's hear it..."But it's $100K more, it should make more power!"
that mean Ford "owns" in ther power department as you put it?
Let's hear it..."But it's $100K more, it should make more power!"
It's in a different class though, right?
03-16-2006, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by unit213
The Ford GT puts down about 100rwhp more that a C6 Z06. Doesn't
that mean Ford "owns" in ther power department as you put it?
Let's hear it..."But it's $100K more, it should make more power!"
that mean Ford "owns" in ther power department as you put it?
Let's hear it..."But it's $100K more, it should make more power!"
06 ZO6+DR's > Ford GT
No one can argue that the 06 Z is by far the greatest power for price car ever made.
Haveing said all that... the ford vs chevy thing is gay, cobras kick ***, so do the LSx cars.
03-16-2006, 05:27 PM
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there will always be arguments on both sides.the late 80s,early 90s was 5.0 v/s 5.7 =your car has more cubes,yeah but your car is lighter.94-98,well that may have been a very dismal time for ford.now we are talking about cars that aren't made anymore.there will always be nut-hangers on both sides that don't know much at all about the other brand but talk up all sorts of **** and they don't have a clue.
03-16-2006, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by WhiteKnightZ28
Yet it only runs .1sec faster in the 1/4
06 ZO6+DR's > Ford GT
No one can argue that the 06 Z is by far the greatest power for price car ever made.
Haveing said all that... the ford vs chevy thing is gay, cobras kick ***, so do the LSx cars.
06 ZO6+DR's > Ford GT
No one can argue that the 06 Z is by far the greatest power for price car ever made.
Haveing said all that... the ford vs chevy thing is gay, cobras kick ***, so do the LSx cars.
last time i checked the 06 z06 had a 70k price tag didnt it?