bolt-ons just dont cut it
09-11-2006, 04:47 PM
#1
TECH Fanatic
Thread Starter
iTrader: (12)
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: sw fl.
Posts: 1,901
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
bolt-ons just dont cut it well... for the past year ive had the fastest car on my block until now....
i have a bolt-on A4 01 z28 and have been the envy of all the neighborhood kids.... until the guy across the street got a c5 vette.. when i saw it in his driveway 2 months ago i went over there and shot the **** with him for awhile and he planned to keep it completly stock (i can take a stock c5 so i wasnt to worried).......i didnt see him driving it at all for the past 2 weeks but saw it in the garage so i thought he was just keepin the miles off of it....
yesterday i see that he put lambo doors on it (i am not a fan of lambo doors but actually didnt look bad on his vette).... so i decide to go over there and my mouth hit the floor when i saw under his hood.... he put on a vortec supercharger polished of course, a zex nitrous system 150 shot but said he is droppin down to 75 shot, headers and is ordering borla exaust..... i am officially jelouse..
well anyways i couldnt get his car out of my head all day.. so i end up going to the movies w/ a few people (Beerfest is a funny *** movie) and i of course told them about his badass vette and how i wanna be faster now..... well on my way back from the movies i look for a race to boost my confidence.... unfortunatly the only car i found was my buddies 03 cobra that just had an engine swap last month (he is runnin low low 11's) so i know i had no chance... we take off from the light like normal and around 30 i mash it.... he didnt miss a beat and was on the gas instanly.. i pulled a car and a half on him (because he was all sorts of side ways) and i held on pretty good till he eventually ran me down....we then catch the next light... again from a 30 roll but he nails it first (me being dum accidently shifts it down to 2nd
(thinking i was in OD and going into D) and he obviously left me bad.....
so now i want something bigger and better and faster then both of them..... i wanted to do h/c combo but i think im gonna have to go with an entire new motor (im gonna have to save a ton of money).....
i have a bolt-on A4 01 z28 and have been the envy of all the neighborhood kids.... until the guy across the street got a c5 vette.. when i saw it in his driveway 2 months ago i went over there and shot the **** with him for awhile and he planned to keep it completly stock (i can take a stock c5 so i wasnt to worried).......i didnt see him driving it at all for the past 2 weeks but saw it in the garage so i thought he was just keepin the miles off of it....
yesterday i see that he put lambo doors on it (i am not a fan of lambo doors but actually didnt look bad on his vette).... so i decide to go over there and my mouth hit the floor when i saw under his hood.... he put on a vortec supercharger polished of course, a zex nitrous system 150 shot but said he is droppin down to 75 shot, headers and is ordering borla exaust..... i am officially jelouse..
well anyways i couldnt get his car out of my head all day.. so i end up going to the movies w/ a few people (Beerfest is a funny *** movie) and i of course told them about his badass vette and how i wanna be faster now..... well on my way back from the movies i look for a race to boost my confidence.... unfortunatly the only car i found was my buddies 03 cobra that just had an engine swap last month (he is runnin low low 11's) so i know i had no chance... we take off from the light like normal and around 30 i mash it.... he didnt miss a beat and was on the gas instanly.. i pulled a car and a half on him (because he was all sorts of side ways) and i held on pretty good till he eventually ran me down....we then catch the next light... again from a 30 roll but he nails it first (me being dum accidently shifts it down to 2nd
(thinking i was in OD and going into D) and he obviously left me bad.....so now i want something bigger and better and faster then both of them..... i wanted to do h/c combo but i think im gonna have to go with an entire new motor (im gonna have to save a ton of money).....
09-11-2006, 05:25 PM
#2
Launching!
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Getting Head
Posts: 212
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Well you pretty muched summed up how modding began. Somebody had something faster and the next guy was like screw you. Then it began! LOL!
Thats how my modding started about 4yrs ago on my SS. I went to the local street races, raced a boosted civic, got my *** handed to me, came on here crying and complaining, 4 months later I went from stock to H/C/I Stall. I swore to myself I would leave it stock, but hell I just put a 408 Th400 and True Duals on, so I guess it just don't stop.
Anyway Good luck!!
Thats how my modding started about 4yrs ago on my SS. I went to the local street races, raced a boosted civic, got my *** handed to me, came on here crying and complaining, 4 months later I went from stock to H/C/I Stall. I swore to myself I would leave it stock, but hell I just put a 408 Th400 and True Duals on, so I guess it just don't stop.
Anyway Good luck!!
09-11-2006, 06:00 PM
#3
TECH Resident
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Texas
Posts: 932
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Sounds like you are going to have to go big to take out that s/c vette. H/C/I + 100 shot and maybe gears...or you could go with your other idea and drop a new motor in, then you can go as fast as your $$$ will take you. Well, I guess that is true either way...
09-11-2006, 09:04 PM
#7
TECH Fanatic
Thread Starter
iTrader: (12)
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: sw fl.
Posts: 1,901
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
i was thinkin 408 8.5:1 CR and an ati procharger....... but if i do that it will take me atleast a year unless i take out a loan or charge up some of the plastics... or become a hitman..i have alot of thinkin to do.... and i know no matter what i do somebody will be faster but i atleast wanna pwn that vette...ahh its so sweet i hate it... im gonna put my 12bolt and stall in mine now...
this is off topic but car ramrod...ha i love supertroopers... u see club dred or puddle crusiers or beerfest (im guessing yes to all) .. those guys kick ***... dukes of hazard was a lil off of what they do but still pretty good.....
this is off topic but car ramrod...ha i love supertroopers... u see club dred or puddle crusiers or beerfest (im guessing yes to all) .. those guys kick ***... dukes of hazard was a lil off of what they do but still pretty good.....
Trending Topics
09-11-2006, 09:43 PM
#8
TECH Enthusiast
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Somewhere Between Mild Insanity and Complete Psychosis
Posts: 565
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Vortech AND Nitrous ???!!!
First time you run him he'll probably blow the motor. If you like the guy, suggest that he forget the nitrous until he builds the motor.
First time you run him he'll probably blow the motor. If you like the guy, suggest that he forget the nitrous until he builds the motor.
09-12-2006, 09:43 AM
#9
Yea unless hes running a forged shortblock and has a spot on tune your going to be faster than him in about a month when his engine grenades...did he say anything about upgrading the stock engine or maybe is he hiding a forged stroked LSx in there? Anyways back to your modding, what would you prefer? Turbo, SC, or nitrous? As someone else said id go with either a forged 402 or a forged 408, toss on some patriot stage 3 6.0 heads (if you can afford it go with some ETPs/AFR's/TFS's), fast 90/90, kooks 1 7/8th headers, big cam (say texas giant cam) if your spraying or go with a slightly smaller cam if your going FI. If its FI your going strap an F1 procharger onto it and you will have more than enough to walk that vette. Gotta remeber though your going to need a very well built auto tranny with a bullet proof torque converter, some suspension work, badass fuel system, tuning, etc...so it wont be cheap but you will def have morwe than enough for the vette.
09-12-2006, 02:49 PM
#10
Originally Posted by presto_z
well... for the past year ive had the fastest car on my block until now....
i have a bolt-on A4 01 z28 and have been the envy of all the neighborhood kids.... until the guy across the street got a c5 vette.. when i saw it in his driveway 2 months ago i went over there and shot the **** with him for awhile and he planned to keep it completly stock (i can take a stock c5 so i wasnt to worried).......i didnt see him driving it at all for the past 2 weeks but saw it in the garage so i thought he was just keepin the miles off of it....
yesterday i see that he put lambo doors on it (i am not a fan of lambo doors but actually didnt look bad on his vette).... so i decide to go over there and my mouth hit the floor when i saw under his hood.... he put on a vortec supercharger polished of course, a zex nitrous system 150 shot but said he is droppin down to 75 shot, headers and is ordering borla exaust..... i am officially jelouse..
well anyways i couldnt get his car out of my head all day.. so i end up going to the movies w/ a few people (Beerfest is a funny *** movie) and i of course told them about his badass vette and how i wanna be faster now..... well on my way back from the movies i look for a race to boost my confidence.... unfortunatly the only car i found was my buddies 03 cobra that just had an engine swap last month (he is runnin low low 11's) so i know i had no chance... we take off from the light like normal and around 30 i mash it.... he didnt miss a beat and was on the gas instanly.. i pulled a car and a half on him (because he was all sorts of side ways) and i held on pretty good till he eventually ran me down....we then catch the next light... again from a 30 roll but he nails it first (me being dum accidently shifts it down to 2nd (thinking i was in OD and going into D) and he obviously left me bad.....
so now i want something bigger and better and faster then both of them..... i wanted to do h/c combo but i think im gonna have to go with an entire new motor (im gonna have to save a ton of money).....
i have a bolt-on A4 01 z28 and have been the envy of all the neighborhood kids.... until the guy across the street got a c5 vette.. when i saw it in his driveway 2 months ago i went over there and shot the **** with him for awhile and he planned to keep it completly stock (i can take a stock c5 so i wasnt to worried).......i didnt see him driving it at all for the past 2 weeks but saw it in the garage so i thought he was just keepin the miles off of it....
yesterday i see that he put lambo doors on it (i am not a fan of lambo doors but actually didnt look bad on his vette).... so i decide to go over there and my mouth hit the floor when i saw under his hood.... he put on a vortec supercharger polished of course, a zex nitrous system 150 shot but said he is droppin down to 75 shot, headers and is ordering borla exaust..... i am officially jelouse..
well anyways i couldnt get his car out of my head all day.. so i end up going to the movies w/ a few people (Beerfest is a funny *** movie) and i of course told them about his badass vette and how i wanna be faster now..... well on my way back from the movies i look for a race to boost my confidence.... unfortunatly the only car i found was my buddies 03 cobra that just had an engine swap last month (he is runnin low low 11's) so i know i had no chance... we take off from the light like normal and around 30 i mash it.... he didnt miss a beat and was on the gas instanly.. i pulled a car and a half on him (because he was all sorts of side ways) and i held on pretty good till he eventually ran me down....we then catch the next light... again from a 30 roll but he nails it first (me being dum accidently shifts it down to 2nd
(thinking i was in OD and going into D) and he obviously left me bad.....so now i want something bigger and better and faster then both of them..... i wanted to do h/c combo but i think im gonna have to go with an entire new motor (im gonna have to save a ton of money).....
09-12-2006, 04:02 PM
#11
11 Second Club
Originally Posted by BlackMagicC5
I can already tell how this is going to go. Your going to end up wasting TONS of money only to end up selling your car in frustration. You have the wrong attitude. You need to modify and enjoy your car for yourself and no one else. If your always worried about what everyone else is doing, you will never be happy. Trying to compete with someone like that is going to be a long miserable road only to lead to a dead end. It's even worse when the guy has a seriously healthy bank account. Your actually going to spend the next year saving up just so you can beat the vette? When he finds out you have some serious mods and want to race, he will drop another 10 grand in mods in the next day. You can't beat someone like that. Just enjoy your car and don't worry about him.
09-12-2006, 04:53 PM
#12
TECH Fanatic
Thread Starter
iTrader: (12)
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: sw fl.
Posts: 1,901
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
well i have 2 camaros an 01z28 and a 94z28.. i was originally planning on building the 94 for track only but recently decided to keep it as a dd and was planning on doing a cam on the 01 (the 10bolt is shot in it so 12 bolt will be in soon so i will already have a strong enough rear for the upgade)... i am not building this just to beat his vette.. ive been rockin out on boltons for a while and i want more, im NOT doing this out of jelousy (although i wish i had that vette) i am doing this out of my passion for fast and even faster cars... my car is fast but i want it even faster... i have a decent ammount of internal engine experience on non lsx engines so i would be building it myself..... i was going to do a cam then i know in 6 months i would want more prolly end up doing heads and then upgrade from ls6 intake to a FAST intake... every body wishes they were faster then the other guy EVERYBODY....but i realize that there will always be somebody faster no matter what i have.... and yes he prolly will dump 10g's in his motor when he finds out what my plans are or after he blows the stock internal one he has now...black magic and darren i appretiate your concern and my decision isnt final i realize i have alot of thinking to do
09-12-2006, 04:56 PM
#13
TECH Enthusiast
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Lubbock, Tx
Posts: 609
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by BlackMagicC5
I can already tell how this is going to go. Your going to end up wasting TONS of money only to end up selling your car in frustration. You have the wrong attitude. You need to modify and enjoy your car for yourself and no one else. If your always worried about what everyone else is doing, you will never be happy. Trying to compete with someone like that is going to be a long miserable road only to lead to a dead end. It's even worse when the guy has a seriously healthy bank account. Your actually going to spend the next year saving up just so you can beat the vette? When he finds out you have some serious mods and want to race, he will drop another 10 grand in mods in the next day. You can't beat someone like that. Just enjoy your car and don't worry about him.
perfectly said!
09-12-2006, 05:16 PM
#14
Banned
iTrader: (3)
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 1,292
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by BlackMagicC5
I can already tell how this is going to go. Your going to end up wasting TONS of money only to end up selling your car in frustration. You have the wrong attitude. You need to modify and enjoy your car for yourself and no one else. If your always worried about what everyone else is doing, you will never be happy. Trying to compete with someone like that is going to be a long miserable road only to lead to a dead end. It's even worse when the guy has a seriously healthy bank account. Your actually going to spend the next year saving up just so you can beat the vette? When he finds out you have some serious mods and want to race, he will drop another 10 grand in mods in the next day. You can't beat someone like that. Just enjoy your car and don't worry about him.
I agree 100%. Even though modding your car some to take out an unexpecting victim can be fun
, but you shouldn't go to war over it.
People who own Black car's have the best posts
09-12-2006, 05:38 PM
#15
TECH Resident
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Texas
Posts: 932
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by burnzilla
People who own Black car's have the best postsBut I think the op is modding his car for the right reasons. He is modding it for himself, because he wants to go faster...the vette down the street is just a little motivation, and bonus satisfaction when he beats it!
09-13-2006, 09:28 AM
#17
Originally Posted by presto_z
well i have 2 camaros an 01z28 and a 94z28.. i was originally planning on building the 94 for track only but recently decided to keep it as a dd and was planning on doing a cam on the 01 (the 10bolt is shot in it so 12 bolt will be in soon so i will already have a strong enough rear for the upgade)... i am not building this just to beat his vette.. ive been rockin out on boltons for a while and i want more, im NOT doing this out of jelousy (although i wish i had that vette) i am doing this out of my passion for fast and even faster cars... my car is fast but i want it even faster... i have a decent ammount of internal engine experience on non lsx engines so i would be building it myself..... i was going to do a cam then i know in 6 months i would want more prolly end up doing heads and then upgrade from ls6 intake to a FAST intake... every body wishes they were faster then the other guy EVERYBODY....but i realize that there will always be somebody faster no matter what i have.... and yes he prolly will dump 10g's in his motor when he finds out what my plans are or after he blows the stock internal one he has now...black magic and darren i appretiate your concern and my decision isnt final i realize i have alot of thinking to do
09-13-2006, 09:37 AM
#18
Teching In
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Wilkes Barre, Pa
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Hehe your story really hits home with me. I was content with my car and my planned mods were small. Yeah that ended the day I raced my friends C5 TT Vette. I have him to blame for all the money I've been sinking into my car lately. While I doubt I'll ever beat his car but I plan to atleast put up a better fight.
I think you should make you vette buddy pay for 1/2 your mods. It's only fair..
I have him to blame for all the money I've been sinking into my car lately. While I doubt I'll ever beat his car but I plan to atleast put up a better fight.I think you should make you vette buddy pay for 1/2 your mods. It's only fair..
09-13-2006, 02:13 PM
#19
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (5)
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: king of prussia, pa (home) and williamsport, pa (school)
Posts: 527
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
theres always a faster car out there, remember that.
i learned the hard way when i got pulled by a rich kid's srt4
oh well. its just more motivation!
i learned the hard way when i got pulled by a rich kid's srt4
oh well. its just more motivation!
