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Old 01-19-2007, 12:14 PM
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The only loss the taller gears will cause is a lower MPH in the top gear @ redline. However, take a car and change from a 2.73 to a 4.11 leaving everthing else the same, the car with the 4.11's will accelerate faster and hit redline quicker in top gear (if it has enough HP) but at a lower MPH than the 2.73 car.
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All you have is 4.10s and a lid? There is something seriously wrong with the stang or he doesn't have the supporting mods for the blower. I have a 03 gt with a procharger and all supporting mods and pretty good suspension. When I was at 8psi it took a ls car 150 shot and drag radials to hang. There is no way 4.10s and a lid makes nearly as much of a difference as 150 shot and tires in a drag race. He may have been messing with you or somethings not right with his car.jmo
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Who dug up this old *** thread??... Anyway, I just read through the entire thing and there's a bunch of B.S. in it.

^ +1! There's no way the race should've been even relatively close with Camaro having just a lid and some gears. The stang should've walked away easy. But who know what the hell really happened.
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This video right right here is of me racing the GT again after he got the after cooler and learned how to drive.

He couldn't drive for **** when I raced him last time, which is probably why I won.
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GT had more power and is considerably lighter, but anything can happen in a street race.
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Originally Posted by contentsunderpressur
All you have is 4.10s and a lid? There is something seriously wrong with the stang or he doesn't have the supporting mods for the blower. I have a 03 gt with a procharger and all supporting mods and pretty good suspension. When I was at 8psi it took a ls car 150 shot and drag radials to hang. There is no way 4.10s and a lid makes nearly as much of a difference as 150 shot and tires in a drag race. He may have been messing with you or somethings not right with his car.jmo
Huh, GT+8psi=350-375rwhp. LS1 with 150 shot=450-475rwhp, and thats if he is stock with that 150 shot.
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Originally Posted by Sprayed1998
Huh, GT+8psi=350-375rwhp. LS1 with 150 shot=450-475rwhp, and thats if he is stock with that 150 shot.
I've raced two of them. Won one and lost one. First race I went a 7.81 to his 7.9x. The second race was with a different car, I went a 7.9x to his 7.8x. I run 1.6x 60 fts with my setup. Both ls cars were completely stock except for tires and gas. It's all in the suspension. I saw a ls car on the dyno make 383 rwhp and run 7.0s because he had a great suspension.
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Originally Posted by OneMeanZ
This video right right here is of me racing the GT again after he got the after cooler and learned how to drive.

He couldn't drive for **** when I raced him last time, which is probably why I won.
I agree, I couldn't drive the car when I first got it!! But OneMeanZ is one hell of a driver!! It was all fun!!
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reminds me of a race that me and bk04cobra had a while back when he had a blown gt we didnt get to race far at all but i think it would have been the same out come
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Originally Posted by chaman
Nope. Wrong. Is true a taller gear will make the car accelerate faster but this is more a predominant factor going from a dig, like from a stoplight. The race was a 45mph roll those are basically highway speeds. At top end the taller gear will have the effect of limiting or slowing you down, the lower gear will maximize it (top end speed) as you said. Thats what my post was referring to.


Ok, this makes no sense. Ive had 2.73, 3.23, 3.42 and now a 410. The car has been faster all the way around with the 4.10. In any car i know of where the gear was changed to a higher gear ratio the car had the same top speed, it just got there quicker.
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Originally Posted by 305 h.o.
Ok, this makes no sense. Ive had 2.73, 3.23, 3.42 and now a 410. The car has been faster all the way around with the 4.10. In any car i know of where the gear was changed to a higher gear ratio the car had the same top speed, it just got there quicker.
No sir...top speed is lower, because of the higher RPM with a taller gear ratio.
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Exactly. Take a car with 4.10's in it that maxes out at the traps and put 4.56's in it. I'll bet ya a grand ya hit the limiter at about 1100' with a quicker ET and lower trap speed.
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Originally Posted by CharlieCobra03
Exactly. Take a car with 4.10's in it that maxes out at the traps and put 4.56's in it. I'll bet ya a grand ya hit the limiter at about 1100' with a quicker ET and lower trap speed.
Sure...get all technical with your example.
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My car traps higher with the 4.10's than it did with 3.23' and 3.42's. So if a Ls1 camaro has A six speed with 3.23's and he puts 4.10's under it you are tilling me that if the car topped out at 158 in 5th with 6th gear to go with 3.23's that when the 4.10's were put in the car that it wouldnt do 158 any more? When you go up on the gear ratio on a car the less weight the motor feels as far as strain. I dont know where you guys are getting all this slower top end stuff at but i guess it kind of depends on the trans and the rev limmeter.
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Originally Posted by 305 h.o.
My car traps higher with the 4.10's than it did with 3.23' and 3.42's. So if a Ls1 camaro has A six speed with 3.23's and he puts 4.10's under it you are tilling me that if the car topped out at 158 in 5th with 6th gear to go with 3.23's that when the 4.10's were put in the car that it wouldnt do 158 any more? When you go up on the gear ratio on a car the less weight the motor feels as far as strain. I dont know where you guys are getting all this slower top end stuff at but i guess it kind of depends on the trans and the rev limmeter.

Don't be confused....you said "Top Speed". And that is what I was replying too. in 6th gear with 3.23s you will have a higher top speed than with 4.10s because of the Rotations/higher rpm/pull.....basically, you run out of gear to reach the highest top speed.




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