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Old 11-06-2007, 09:49 PM
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Default Is it possible to run a 112 mph with a stock bolt on A4 formula??

My friend has a 2001 firebird formula A4 with all bolt ons. You know, headers and full exhaust, lid, maybe a tune and maybe a set of rocker arms which he doesn't claim to have.. He is very sneaky but swears his car will run 112 in the 1/4 but has never taken it to the track. He is comparing his car to another car he ran from a roll that runs low 12's @ 112mph at the track. he said they where locked up.. and the other guy couldn't pull on him at all. I think he is full of it.. I've been trying to setup a race with him but we can never get one going. My car has full bolt ons with a PTC 3500 stall converter and I run 12.6 @ 107mph.. Is it possible for a stock A4 full bolt on LS1 car to run 112mph in the 1/4? He doesn't have a converter and he is not spraying the car. Please let me know what you think.. Thanks
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Why not? my wifes 01 A4 with a lid, meter, and a cutout went 109mph full weight too. With headers, O/R Y, crank pulley, and 3.73's I can see that. Without a converter too.

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Sounds like its possible.
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I would say definite maybe. Probably a yes. But if not, a no.

Tell him to take it to the track and prove it. Comparison performance is a rough gauge at best. If he is really your friend then he will pump up the performance and stop pumping $h!t into your head.
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Originally Posted by Ghostriderr
I would say definite maybe. Probably a yes. But if not, a no.

Tell him to take it to the track and prove it. Comparison performance is a rough gauge at best. If he is really your friend then he will pump up the performance and stop pumping $h!t into your head.
He's not pumping **** into my head!! I think he's full of it.. I've been hearing this story since I first bought my car about 3 months ago.. I ran him when I was stock with the same bolt on parts he has now and he beat me by about 3 lenghts. Now I have full bolt ons with a PTC 3500 stall converter and I ran 12.6 1/4 @ 107mph 1.74 60ft 8.0 1/8 @ 86.22mph. He thinks his car is going to run low 12's at around 112 mph with the mods he has now and the stock torqe converter. He is gauging this off of the run he had from a roll against that other car and one of those G-force meters you can buy that tells you how fast your car is in the 1/4. I told him lets run our cars from a dead stop and see how well he does or just go to the track and see what he runs..

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Originally Posted by Bitemark46
Why not? my wifes 01 A4 with a lid, meter, and a cutout went 109mph full weight too. With headers, O/R Y, crank pulley, and 3.73's I can see that. Without a converter too.

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He's got the stock 3.23's in the car and stockcrank pully.. He does have headers with full exhaust..
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I Dont Think Its Posible W/o A Stall An A6 Will Do It Quik Fast And In A Hury
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Originally Posted by streetfighter82
I Dont Think Its Posible W/o A Stall An A6 Will Do It Quik Fast And In A Hury
I know for sure that the M6 can do it.. but not the A4.. A M6 with the same mods as me will not ET as low but the mph will be higher. I see my friends run theres at the track with the same mods as me but the M6 will run 12.8-12.9 @ 110-114mph with a 60ft of 1.88 to 1.90. It's funny how that works!! One of my other friends has a 02 SS M6. From a dead stop I kill him out of the hole but after around 100mph he starts pulling me..
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Originally Posted by streetfighter82
I Dont Think Its Posible W/o A Stall An A6 Will Do It Quik Fast And In A Hury
3 questions....

Whats an A6 in F Body terms?

With a stall can't your MPH be lower because of a higher STR?

Am I The Only Person That Feels Like Every Word Is A New Sentence When People Type Like This? It Seems Like So Much More Work To Me, Not To Mention Its Annoying As Hell To Read.
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Originally Posted by FiredUpZ28
3 questions....

Whats an A6 in F Body terms?

With a stall can't your MPH be lower because of a higher STR?

Am I The Only Person That Feels Like Every Word Is A New Sentence When People Type Like This? It Seems Like So Much More Work To Me, Not To Mention Its Annoying As Hell To Read.
Now thats funny!! Not to mention it would take alot longer to type..
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I am leaning towards negative on the 112 mph. That would be really smokin' for an A4, full weight, stock gearing LS1. You really don't see that happen very often, if at all. The large majority trap in the 106-110 area with full exhaust, lid, pulley, LS6 (or equivelant) intake. Sounds to me he is just being a little too optimistic.

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I went 110 with a full weight T/A with full exhaust, lid, stall, ls6 intake. Maybe with some weight loss and full bolt ons I see it.
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Originally Posted by slowmofo
I went 110 with a full weight T/A with full exhaust, lid, stall, ls6 intake. Maybe with some weight loss and full bolt ons I see it.
I agree I've trapped a best of 109 consistently running 108, with longtubes, ls6 intake, performabuilt tranny and 3500 stall, full weight, stock gearing, stock tune. With some weight reduction and a tune I think 111-113 are not out of the question but i'm not sure how much a stock stall would effect MPH. It's hard to judge anything on the street I've beaten a cammed/sprayed/geared mustang GT that traps 115 consistently and also lost to a decent sized turbo talon gsx that traps 107 anything can happen on the street.
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I have a 98 t/a a4 with longtube's, y-pipe with no cats, catback exhuast, lid, ls6 intake mani, and a dyno tune from eastside, it dyno'd 320whp, I just recently ran 12.9 at the track on a VERY cold day @ 107mph. It would prob take me a cam atleast to hit 112mph.
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Well, I know someone with an M6 and those same mods who did 115 at Atco, so 3 mph less in an auto doesn't seem impossible to me. Unlikely? Definitely, but not impossible. Run em and find out. Post results.
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Originally Posted by PewterScreaminMach
Well, I know someone with an M6 and those same mods who did 115 at Atco, so 3 mph less in an auto doesn't seem impossible to me. Unlikely? Definitely, but not impossible. Run em and find out. Post results.
Thats the whole problem. He won't run me now!!
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On a good track and good day I can see it happening.

I trap 112 with bolt-ons, but my car is a M6 with 4.10s (but I don't have headers). I'm hoping with a good set of LTs, I will pick up another 1-2mph in the 1/4.
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Very believable. I saw my friend Betty (Paperdoll on here) ran a 12.7@113 at SDR in January of 2006. This was with edelbrock shorties, lide, TB, free mods, and some weight reduction (!seats ) with stock stall on nitto drag radials. Stock LS1 intake, 3.23s.

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Originally Posted by METALBEAST
Very believable. I saw my friend Betty (Paperdoll on here) ran a 12.7@113 at SDR in January of 2006. This was with edelbrock shorties, lide, TB, free mods, and some weight reduction (!seats ) with stock stall on nitto drag radials. Stock LS1 intake, 3.23s.

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werd to that jeff, 112.7 i believe, then it went up when we did more major mods, then down when we swapped the stall. very possible! you'd be surprised on how far paying attention to details will get you
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Originally Posted by BigD 275
On a good track and good day I can see it happening.

I trap 112 with bolt-ons, but my car is a M6 with 4.10s (but I don't have headers). I'm hoping with a good set of LTs, I will pick up another 1-2mph in the 1/4.
wow that's pretty impressive. Trapping 112 w/o headers is movin' out pretty good, damn.



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