beat a cammed/stalled GTO and C6
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beat a cammed/stalled GTO and C6
ran a cammed(small cam he said, dont know the size) and 3500 stalled gto... on the right side was an 05 C6 with predator tune(remove torque management bs, although it is a 6 spd)
me? im in 2001 Z06 with just a catback and some sort of air intake, new cheapo tires on the back(178 per tire for 295's)
anyways, i 3 honk and we're off... put about 2 lengths on the gto immediately and had about 3.5 overall. i put about 4 on the C6 by the time it was all over. they have the runs on video, i cant search youtube as im at work right now. gto guy said he was doing around 400 at the wheels, i have no idea what i put down. id guess 350 tops? no clue. everyone ive ran has said, "thats fast for an 01"
oh, all this was from a roll of about 50mph. 2nd gear for me in peak powerband.
me? im in 2001 Z06 with just a catback and some sort of air intake, new cheapo tires on the back(178 per tire for 295's)
anyways, i 3 honk and we're off... put about 2 lengths on the gto immediately and had about 3.5 overall. i put about 4 on the C6 by the time it was all over. they have the runs on video, i cant search youtube as im at work right now. gto guy said he was doing around 400 at the wheels, i have no idea what i put down. id guess 350 tops? no clue. everyone ive ran has said, "thats fast for an 01"
oh, all this was from a roll of about 50mph. 2nd gear for me in peak powerband.
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c6 guy... he needed some coaching. he kept starting in 3rd at 50, and i would put buslengths on him. i told him to slow to 30 so i knew he would be in 2nd, then i slowly moved it up to 50mph. there was an instant pull when we both floored it. the gto is an 05 i believe. it has hood scoops. i probably had an advantage from a roll because of the auto, but i am sure the stall helped that at least somewhat. i was surprised i didnt leave him in the dust to be quite honest, i did not know he had a cam. i had never heard the car before we ran. he said he has never been pulled like that by other stock(or near stock) z06's before.
i am a fairly decent driver id like to think too
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c6 guy... he needed some coaching. he kept starting in 3rd at 50, and i would put buslengths on him. i told him to slow to 30 so i knew he would be in 2nd, then i slowly moved it up to 50mph. there was an instant pull when we both floored it. the gto is an 05 i believe. it has hood scoops. i probably had an advantage from a roll because of the auto, but i am sure the stall helped that at least somewhat. i was surprised i didnt leave him in the dust to be quite honest, i did not know he had a cam. i had never heard the car before we ran. he said he has never been pulled like that by other stock(or near stock) z06's before.
i am a fairly decent driver id like to think too
i am a fairly decent driver id like to think too
His stall wouldn't help him from a roll, only from a dig. You definitely have the advantage as an M6 vs an auto from a roll. Nice job.
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c6 guy... he needed some coaching. he kept starting in 3rd at 50, and i would put buslengths on him. i told him to slow to 30 so i knew he would be in 2nd, then i slowly moved it up to 50mph. there was an instant pull when we both floored it. the gto is an 05 i believe. it has hood scoops. i probably had an advantage from a roll because of the auto, but i am sure the stall helped that at least somewhat. i was surprised i didnt leave him in the dust to be quite honest, i did not know he had a cam. i had never heard the car before we ran. he said he has never been pulled like that by other stock(or near stock) z06's before.
i am a fairly decent driver id like to think too
i am a fairly decent driver id like to think too
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#10
ive never driven a c6, i have no idea where their gearing goes to. however, mine is at about 4k at 55mph in 2nd, which is good for me. doesnt matter who the driver is, ill beat the car all day long.
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so at what point do you have to shift? 70mph? because thats a really long first gear... the gear might go to 55mph, but you can NOT downshift to 1st from 80mph like we were running. pretty stupid to be in 1st if you only have a couple hundred rpms left... i dont know though, and quite frankly i dont care. i am NOT a C6 fan... the drivetrain, yes. everything else, no.
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I figure it takes 430 to the wheels for a GTO to do a C5 Z06 with even mild mods. Headers and tune on the Z change the landscape. At 390-400 I'd guess you could beat a C5 Z06 with a GTO but it would be by outdriving him. My easiest races were catching a guy out of the hole or missing a shift which seems amazingly common to me. When I crossed 440 at the wheels I found I could reel them in pretty well through 2nd, 3rd and 4th. Somewhere in the upper atmosphere they'd catch me on top end. All in all I view the C5 Z06 as the classic hot rod of this century and along with the 03/04 Cobra a car that definitely merits all the rest of us measuring our mods by. Great race and post.
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I figure it takes 430 to the wheels for a GTO to do a C5 Z06 with even mild mods. Headers and tune on the Z change the landscape. At 390-400 I'd guess you could beat a C5 Z06 with a GTO but it would be by outdriving him. My easiest races were catching a guy out of the hole or missing a shift which seems amazingly common to me. When I crossed 440 at the wheels I found I could reel them in pretty well through 2nd, 3rd and 4th. Somewhere in the upper atmosphere they'd catch me on top end. All in all I view the C5 Z06 as the classic hot rod of this century and along with the 03/04 Cobra a car that definitely merits all the rest of us measuring our mods by. Great race and post.
also, these tires hook almost as well as a nitto drag radial on the street, and they are a 280 treadwear... dont even have to heat them up. i can floor it in 1st gear and all i do is squat and go!
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so at what point do you have to shift? 70mph? because thats a really long first gear... the gear might go to 55mph, but you can NOT downshift to 1st from 80mph like we were running. pretty stupid to be in 1st if you only have a couple hundred rpms left... i dont know though, and quite frankly i dont care. i am NOT a C6 fan... the drivetrain, yes. everything else, no.
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we ran from 55.... however, prior to slowing to 55mph, we were doing about 80. he would to have come to a complete stop(or maybe about 10mph, i can get into 1st at 10) then speed back up to 55...
you c6 guys' gears must really suck...
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